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  • #16
    OK: cat among the pigeons. Who cares? 99.99% of the songs are ephemeral, anyway, and very few have any artistic merit, either in lyric or score. They are written in the hopes that they will bring a bucketful of $$$ to those concerned, especially the record companies.Let me give a couple of illustrations:

    Listen to MJ's 'Thriller'. Without doubt it evokes the video clip of it - annd that was extremely well made with some artistic merit. Now try and erase the memory of that and listen to the words and music, both of which are pretty putrid.

    Think Abba. Their songs were 'catchy', starting with Waterloo and appealed to the mindless audience but they were forgotten a few months later, most of the performances being of two blokes and two gals in outrageous costumes. Nothing substantial to remember them by. Then along comes 'Mamma Mia' to provide a visual anchor to the same music and it has suddenly become, decades later, a 'hit' of sorts. The film has broken records and has inspired the recording studio to have a great inrush of lolly. Does that make the songs any better? Of course not! Once the stage show and film have finished doing the rounds, it will fall back into oblivion.

    On a slightly better scale, many songs from Lloyd-Webber's musicals have become hits and have remained more popular. This is because he is a superb musician and has the nous to work with good lyricists. Nevertheless, there iis still the visual prop.

    Go back 100 or so years. What songs can you still hear? Verdi and Puccini spring to mind with their great arias. But who can hear, 'Un bel di, vedremo' without evoking the vision of a heartbroken Japanese girl about to commit suicide? We still have that visual prop. On a lighter scale, Gilbert & Sullivan's or Offenbach's comic operas have it as well. The vision of a majestic Mikado enouncing his politics is as firmly fixed as the music. Yet these have survived because the music is great, even if the words of some of the Grand Opera arias can be very trite, albeit poetic.

    Coming back to more modern times, even those with both good music and words often die with the performers artistic or physical death: do you ever hear Johnny Cash nowadays, except perhaps on specialist Country shows? Even living legends like Dylan and McCartney have had their day.

    IMHO, if you want good songs broadcast integrally, it has to be something the DJs can respect as works of art, both musically and lyrically, that THEY want to listen to. I can understand that they become jaded by the awful trash that passes as songs, especially when they have no visual props. The sooner that the rubbish passes the better, in favour of a commercial, the better. At least the commercial is paying their salary.

    Finally, look at the Susan Boyle phenomenon: she chose an excellent song and was able to execute it impeccable. This sent everyone wild with joy, yet she didn't have anything visual going for her (some may have memories of 'Les Misérables', though). This is Music with a capital M that commands respect in its own right. The same with Paul Potts, although everyone was comparing his 'Nessun dorma' with Pavarotti's in their mind! Have Music and maybe the DJs will listen to it themselves.

    Now for the onslaught!
    Brian (the devil incarnate)

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    • #17
      Long since given up on comercial radio here in Perth.

      I usualy stick with with ABC(australian broadcasting corporation) offerings, they are available streaming online as well.

      JJJ , triple J is the "youth" radio station, but it's got all the best latest local and OS music months/years before the commercial stations work out the music is popular/good.

      They have good radio segments as well, eg if you want thrash metal, rap..etc they a segment for the hardcore fans of whatever genre hosted by someone who actual cares about the music (eg comentators can be a bit cheesy but they are genuine)
      The top 100 compilation CDs they release every year are great, kind of fun pointing out to people there latest "new" favourite is actual a year or 2 old.

      eg I have been listening The Kings of Leon for years before before the commercials even touch the stuff, then of course they thrash them to death.

      Then there is ABC classic FM, which is a fair bit of classical but also plenty "classics" from Jazz, swing etc as well as new . And they never EVER talk over the music, and even play whole albums without a break on occasion.

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      • #18
        Radio? Like...over the air? Why would you listen to that in this time and age?

        We have much better options now:

        Last.fm database/recommendation system (BTW Fat Tone, they care somewhat less from where you are, at least as long as you're in the UK, among few other countries...thanks for that to those people who also killed analog radio)...

        ...and some niche "radio" stations which mostly stream over the web; they're not immune to destruction (as happened with my favourite one few months ago, went from alternative to "pop-alternative"... :/ At least it seems SLAY Radio will always be there...) but you're not confined to their area of reception like in the old days, so one can find something new relatively quickly (BTW, thanks Utwig! So far I can definatelly tell that I love di.fm Space Music channel)

        PS. To lighten this discussion up, there are also modified songs which you can't help but love Oh, and Brian, I do listen to Johnny Cash...well, two songs at least; I'm a bit afraid to dig more at the moment

        PPS. And apart from critising the expected inflexibility of music industry and their efforts to homogenise music, keep it under (their) wraps...there are also a lot of, how to put it..."primitive" people out there, who actually like shitty music. Thing is...I guess in the past they had much lower purchasing power; now they're the biggest market. Thank improving living standards in our parts of the world.
        Last edited by Nowhere; 24 April 2009, 16:07.

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        • #19
          A few of the local radio stations seem to be getting the message that "more music" =/= "more songs per hour." They seem to be paying more attention to playing some longer "classic" songs rather than the AM edits. But what I don't get is that they'll play "Man in the Box" unbleeped, but not "Money." Figure that one out.

          Kevin

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          • #20
            One local station shocked the brown stuff out of me the other day when they played Iron Butterfly's In a Gadda da Vida full album length: 17:05 !! With blankspace on both ends!!

            Turns out the DJ had seen a cable play of Michael Mann's Manhunter (based on Thomas Harris' Red Dragon) which has IaGdV playing in the background for the climactic scenes and it had been bouncing around inside his head all day.
            Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 24 April 2009, 22:07.
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            • #21
              I'm tickled speechless when I hear Suite Judy Blue eyes uncut. It would never have occurred to me to request IaGdV!

              Kevin

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