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    LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists reacted with alarm to the manslaughter conviction of six earthquake experts in Italy for failing to give adequate warning of the 2009 earthquake in the city of L'Aquila that killed 308 people.

    Scientists warned that researchers in areas involving unpredictable natural threats, like volcanology and even meteorology, will now be more reluctant to offer advice and insight to the public.

    "If it stands, this verdict will have a chilling effect on earthquake science in Italy and throughout Europe," said Sandy Steacy, professor of earthquake physics at the University of Ulster.

    "Who would now be willing to serve on an earthquake hazard evaluation panel when getting it wrong could mean a conviction for manslaughter?"

    The ruling comes at a time when scientists are being coaxed into more active engagement with the public to demonstrate the importance of their work for the economy and the community.

    "This case suggests that such engagement can be very dangerous," said Steacy.

    Prosecutors had argued the experts gave inaccurate reassurances after tremors that preceded the 6.3 magnitude quake.

    The six seismologists and one government official took part in a meeting before the quake in March 2009 where a risk assessment committee told city officials that a major quake was improbable, although not impossible.

    "What those six scientists said was correct and any seismologists would support it," said Roger Musson at the British Geological Survey. "It seems to be wrong that they should be prosecuted for offering scientific advice to the best of their ability."

    In the United States, Michael Halpern at the Union of Concerned Scientists lobby group said in a blog: "This is an absurd and dangerous decision that U.S. officials should rebuke, and Italian President Giorgio Napolitano should overturn."

    Scientists warned the ruling could have repercussions beyond Italian borders and across other disciplines.
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    Report something they are uncertain about and get condemmed for panicing the public, don't report and get done for manslaughter

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    • #3
      That is what may happen in the not so distant future with respect to weather reports here .
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      • #4
        This is the craziest ruling by a court for ages. Just think of the repercussions if a similar action was started in Indonesia or Japan. The Tohoku quake on 11 March last year and its resultant tsunami killed over 20,000 persons. The Sumatra-Andaman earthquake on 26 December 2004 and its resultant tsunami is believed to have killed over an estimated 220,000 persons (including two that I personally knew). Are all these deaths due to seismologists under-estimating the risks? Of course not. Seismology is not an exact science and never can be. The same can be said of vulcanology.

        To take the argument to its ridiculous extreme, conspiracy theorists blame the HAARP transmitter in Alaska for causing earthquakes; that would make the US Government responsible for the 308 deaths.

        Why not blame the founding fathers, a Holy Roman Emperor and his sons, of L'Aquila who built their town on a known fault line in the 13th century? It was also known that the ground on which it is built is subject to liquefaction by its thixotropic nature. Over 10,000 persons were killed there in the 18th century from seismic activity. In view of the known danger, the town should have been evacuated centuries ago. The city fathers were negligent in not having done so then or now - and this is continuing as it is being rebuilt.

        A bloody stupid judgement!
        Brian (the devil incarnate)

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        • #5
          See also http://www.bgs.ac.uk/research/earthq...rthquakes.html and its links. Also

          where a leading seismologist predicts a megadeath quake may happen, but he doesn't know where, perhaps Iran or Turkey. He reckons 10-15% of the population are likely to die if a large quake hits an unprepared region, such as happened in Haiti. Just the free preview of the book is worth the read: click on the image of the front cover.
          Brian (the devil incarnate)

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          • #6
            I'm all for this ruling, but in one condition:
            The same ruling will apply to bankers and 'economists' who's 'mistaken' (see, I'm not blaming) actions and prediction made people lose their jobs, houses, families and lives.
            Then to politicians who by deed or by misdeed caused death and or grief to people.
            Lawyers who give bad advise.
            Investment consultants who made inverstors lose money.
            And so on and so forth.

            I double dare you.
            "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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            • #7
              Do they think they will EVER get a scientist to give them a prediction of any kind after this?
              And what about engineering consultants?

              It may be that this will be overturned, but the damage will undoubtedly last for decades.
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