Terror in France: coordinated attacks

[dZeus]

Well, that is not what the Russian said but yes, that is one of the problems with our asylum-process: refused seekers do not return / get deported. That, in itself, is hardly different from illegal aliens coming in without seeking asylum. And it is not easy to prevent that at all, look at Mexico-US. The Russians, of course have no such problem and that makes it somewhat hard for them to understand how difficult it is to keep people out when they do want to come in. No one wants to go to Russia.

Of course it is not about cheap labor for Germany. If that was what they wanted they could have gotten it cheaper and with less controversy.

Being a rich and safe area draws people. And you get them from the worst corners because it is quite a hurdle to leave ones' home.

If "we" want to solve this we can't do without radical measures (of which I think we are not willing and we probably should not be, to take).

if western foreign policies for the rest of the world (e.g. north-Africa and the Gulf) were less centred on geo-strategic politics gains, and more on stability, we'd probably not be in this situation in the first place. Not that I'm trying to downplay the more 'local' external factors, such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran and Israel...
Note that the human trafficking was already going on after removal of Khadaffi in Libia, with many immigrants being facilitated across the Mediterranean sea, as opposed to being stopped.

And now we see the same going on in norther Iraq, where for the past few years a bunch of countries have been grooming a local population with unrecognised claim of independence.

...I suppose as long as there's oil in the ground and policy makers care about who has how much power, that region really is doomed. It's the way it's sold to the populace that I find distasteful.

As about how to tackle this: some countries are willing to take more assertive steps, most notably some of the former Warsaw-pact countries, as well as Denmark. Many of the others wouldn't be able to do that though, unless more populist parties gain traction in elections.

[Umfriend]

Oh, I have no issue agreeing that western foreign policies have, at least in sufficient part, been mired with disingeniousness and that it has contributed to various issues. Not sure they'd been a lot less had the "west" only made "good" decisions. I believe, however, that many disputes would have come up without our "help". Surely there have been wars all over the world when the "west" was non-existent or non-influential.