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    Hydrogen fuel goes liquid (Nature news article)


    Published online: 24 August 2007; | doi:10.1038/news070820-14

    Nitrogen unlocks the possibility of convenient clean fuels.

    Katharine Sanderson

    Forget trying to shove gaseous hydrogen into porous materials for safe storage: the future of the clean-fuel economy lies in carrying hydrogen in a liquid, argues Robert Crabtree of Yale University, New Haven.

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    Most research on hydrogen storage and transport has focused on materials called metal hydrides and, recently, on metal-organic-frameworks (MOFs) — incredibly porous materials that can be stuffed full of gas. But getting enough hydrogen into these frameworks to make a fuel tank of reasonable size and weight is problematic1, and getting the fuel in and out would require novel fuelling systems.

    Instead, Crabtree envisages a system that uses a standard petrol tank containing an organic liquid. This liquid would be passed through a heated module containing a catalyst, which would unlock hydrogen and release it a little at a time to be used as fuel. The remaining dehydrogenated liquid would then be removed at a filling station and whisked away to be reprocessed — the liquid can be hydrogenated and rehydrogenated repeatedly, making it re-usable. Meanwhile the tank would be quickly refilled with fresh, hydrogenated liquid.

    The main problem with such liquids is that it usually requires high temperatures (an increase of about 600 degrees Celsius) to unlock the hydrogen — not very practical in a car. Crabtree proposes getting around this by incorporating nitrogen into his organic liquids.

    Nitrogen binds to hydrogen less strongly than carbon does, and the presence of nitrogen within a carbon-based ring weakens the remaining C-H bonds. These weakened bonds make it easier to get hydrogen out as the liquid passes over a catalyst, and lower operating temperatures would be needed — the material only needs to be raised by 50 degrees Celsius.


    Not hard to handle

    The world's largest hydrogen producer, Air Products and Chemicals, based in Allentown, Pennsylvania, is investing serious cash in a similar liquid-based system. "In any future hydrogen economy you would expect it to be much easier to move liquids around rather than gas," says Alan Cooper, a research chemist at Air Products. With the work that's going on now, he says, "consumers of the future will never have to handle hydrogen gas." He is confident that their liquids are close to meeting the US Department of Energy target of creating a fuel tank holding 6% hydrogen by weight by 2010.

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    Sounds very interesting. Now... if you can get to 6% hydrogen (which I'm assuming is just the the beginning). How much energy (mpg/kpl) could you expect to get out of a standard 12-16 gallon tank? Or would you have to have a 6-8 gallon tank for hydrogenated liquids and another for dehyrogenated? If you have to have smaller tanks due to a finite amount of space in the vehicle then you'd hope that you could at least get 300miles per 6-8 gallon tank.
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      We'll see what GM does. IIRC they're going with the Ovonics enhancd hydride system in the 100 gen-5 testbeds going out for consumer testing this fall, but when their fuel cell cars go into production ~2010 who knows?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post
        ...fuel cell cars go into production ~2010 who knows?
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        It is certainly strange to observe...how many people seem to feel vain of their own unqualified optimism when the place where optimism most flourishes is the lunatic asylum.
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        There is no way that FC cars could go into production so rapidly. They are like fusion electricity, the time scale "into production" has always been the same over the past n years, and we are never any nearer.
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        • #5
          GM is on record that the FC is slated for 2010 or sooner if possible, supposedly on the Skateboard platform they've been prepping for ~10 years. They hired 400 new engineers and transferred another 500 from research to production to make it and VOLT happen (the two systems are closely integrated). I'm related to one of them and they're working their butts off.

          Bottom line is that the culture at GM has changed and they've made a commitment to electric and FC. They've also canceled several gas models slated for decades end and closed a transmission plant that would have supplied them.

          The prototype Sequels have 2/4WD with the front wheels driven by a single VOLT motor (1,740 ft/lb) and the rears by two wheel motors (590 ft/lb each). 65 kW nano-tech LiION's provide storage for the regenerative braking, power buffering and backup plug-in power. No tranny and the Skateboard has fly-by-wire controls with force-feedback.

          Skateboard


          So far;

          0-100 kph = 10s
          Top speed = 145 kph
          Range = 480 km

          IIRC the consumer testbeds will be in DC, NYC and LA.

          Also; the Army is now testing a FC Silverado pickup for 16 months as part of its plans to go FC in its vehicles. The Silverado has two 94 kW fuel-cells and 4 wheel steering.
          Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 26 August 2007, 04:10.
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