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    The article is a bit misleading about aberrant behavior on the ISS not being an issue until the Lisa Nowak case. A few years back two Russian crew members were so irate with each other they were nearly brought down early because of the fear of violence breaking out between them.

    Space Station Crew Can Access Gun

    POSTED: 6:16 am EST February 14, 2008

    CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Astronauts aboard the International Space Station apparently have access to a gun.

    Russian Cosmonauts carry a gun on their Soyuz space capsule, which is attached to the space station.

    Every spacecraft carries survival gear for crash landings, and the Russian Soyuz has a kit that includes the gun.

    A photo of a space tourist using one version of the weapon is posted on his Web site.

    But although the gun has been there for as long as the space station has been in orbit, its existence is kept quiet. NASA and Russian officials won't talk publicly about it.

    Former NASA engineer Jim Oberg, who is an author and journalist, wrote about the gun on his Web site. He said the gun has no place in an environment where people are under such high stress.

    "There have been cases of severe psychological strain on people in space, strain that they have taken out -- that their shipmates worried about the ultimate actions," Oberg said.

    Experts said the idea of an astronaut losing control was unthinkable until one year ago, when Lisa Nowak shattered the myth.

    Her own attorney said she was insane when arrested for hunting down another woman, and prosecutors said she was heavily armed.

    Nowak had flown in space just seven months earlier.

    Oberg knows an astronaut bent on orbital manslaughter could simply throw any number of switches to do the job, but he said the crews would be safer if the gun was locked up or left on Earth.

    The gun is located in a survival kit between some seats aboard the Soyuz spacecraft. All the crewmembers know about it, and U.S. astronauts who fly aboard the Soyuz are trained to use it.
    Dr. Mordrid
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    An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

    I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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    ??? what is the point of including a gun in a survival kit in a friggin' space station?????

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    • #3
      It is not for the space station: it is for the re-entry capsule. Many a Soyuz capsule has been lost track of or not been picked up visually during landing. They land on the surface of the earth nominally on the steppes of Russia...sometimes though, they go off course. Sometimes several hundred miles off course.

      One of the Soyuz broke it's homing beacon antenna and took nearly two days to find. Russian Wilderness+Broken Spaceship=bad combination. Hence the gun. Astronauts in space for several months are in no shape for ANY kind of a fight or even a brisk walk on the ground. A Pack of Wolves or a bear would find these people very easy prey.

      As far as high stress environments go, ask any submariner about how it is to go on a patrol in one of those steel tubes. Not even a window to look out of, or a loved one to talk to in real time.

      I'm calling BS on this guy: he's worried about a non-issue.
      Last edited by MultimediaMan; 14 February 2008, 12:12.
      Hey, Donny! We got us a German who wants to die for his country... Oblige him. - Lt. Aldo Raine

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      • #4
        They usually get attacked by aliens you see, so they need the guns to protect themselves and the station.

        Last edited by Elie; 14 February 2008, 21:39.

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        • #5
          Yeah, how else are they supposed to defend themselves against SPACE PIRATES?

          Kevin
          Last edited by KRSESQ; 14 February 2008, 13:02.

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          • #6
            It's probably part of some kind of standard Russian flight crew survival kit.
            Here it would be some kind of one-off $50,000 titanium 22 cal pistol.
            The Russians are more the types to just to snag a kit from standard stocks for bomber crews.
            Chuck
            秋音的爸爸

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            • #7
              The main problem is wolves in their landing zone, and the Soyuz often misses its landing zone by hundreds of miles meaning they may have to fend them off for a day or more.
              Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 14 February 2008, 18:56.
              Dr. Mordrid
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              An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

              I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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              • #8
                Haven't you guys seen Moonraker?
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                • #9
                  Not to mention Mythbusters. Explosive decompression from bullets is a myth.
                  Dr. Mordrid
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                  An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

                  I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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                  • #10
                    What do you mean? I saw that plane prettty much explode when they jacked up the pressure differential and blew a hole in the side

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                    • #11
                      They're afraid Ahminedjad is going to send up hijackers
                      Brian (the devil incarnate)

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                      • #12
                        There's only one bullet
                        That would make people think before using it....
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                        • #13
                          its in case there is a mishap and they need to resposition themselves in orbit with MacGuyverish ingenuity

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