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  • ALBPM
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 3868

    #1

    Weird Problem

    The night before last my system started locking up.
    ABIT BX-133, P3-800@1064MHz, 256MB Mushkin PC150 HSDRAM.

    Twice now it has given a single continuous Beep until reset.

    I have moved the DIMMs around and the only thing that works is to put 1 DIMM in the middle of the three DIMM slots which I haven't used. Doesn't seem to be bad memory because I tried some other 128MB DIMMs and they would only work in the middle of the three DIMM slots.

    Also I have dropped the FSB to 110 from 133 and the core voltage from 1.85v to 1.70v to get the system to run without locking up. It does not appear to be heat since my peltier is working just fine. At 110MHz FSB and 1.7v the processor temp is down to 5-6 degC.

    I still need to re-seat the rest of my cards and processor but it kind of looks like my mobo may be dying a slow death here.

    Any other ideas out there.

    Paul
    "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"
  • Maggi
    Super MURCer
    • Jan 2000
    • 5057

    #2
    did you clean the contacts on your RAM sticks ?
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    • ALBPM
      Super MURCer
      • Aug 1999
      • 3868

      #3
      Yes, I cleaned them all before moving and swaping DIMMs.

      Paul
      "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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      • ALBPM
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 1999
        • 3868

        #4
        From all I could find regarding Beep Codes I have a Memory problem or a short on the mobo.

        My memory seems fine so maybe I have a short in one of my DIMM slots.

        Paul
        "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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        • az
          Moderator
          • Feb 2001
          • 9336

          #5
          Maybe this is stupid, but did you clean the RAM slots, too?

          AZ
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          • Maggi
            Super MURCer
            • Jan 2000
            • 5057

            #6
            plug it in

            Say Pauly, isn't it interesting that I had the exact same long beep after each windows reboot ?

            Even a reset wouldn't revive it. Only a complete powerdown made it come back to life.

            It started right after I inserted a new card and guess, what ... it wasn't seated properly ... DOH !

            Now it is and it didn't happen again.



            I'll feel like a newbie again ...

            Cheers,
            Maggi
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            • Bohrn
              MURCer
              • Sep 1999
              • 636

              #7
              hopefully, if it is your motherboard, it doesn't take anything with it when it finally gasps it's last. Just a thought I had.
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              • ALBPM
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 1999
                • 3868

                #8
                Well, I'm up and running again and this is one of those X Files....LOL

                I've been overclocking my processor and using a 78 watt peltier to keep it cool. I assembled this rig back in September and haven't taken it apart since.

                Now that it's hot we're running an evaporative air conditioner (Swamp Cooler) to cool the house. Our rainy season just started so these two things have combined to make it rather humid inside.

                Well, the continous beeping error code normally means DRAM not detected or a short on the mother board. I guess it can also mean that there is no processor detected....LOL
                I get the same beep code if I remove the processor and boot up.

                Upon close examination I found some moisture was getting into the pins on the socket and shorting things out a bit. So, from now on I must make sure I really pack the dielectric grease into the pin holes on the socket and re-apply every couple of months.

                I ended up getting an ASUS CUSL2-C mobo to replace the ABIT BX-133 that I thought was bad. Turns out the P3-800 is fine and so is the BX-133 mobo. Oh well, it was time for an upgrade....LOL

                I also found out that the 2nd power supply that I installed for the Peltier and heat sink fan may be going bad. I had connected one of my hard drives to it while swapping things around and the hard drive was not detected. I think this power supply is going out prematurely because I did not have any 5v devices connected to it. I heard it's not good to only power 12v devices with a stepping power supply. For some reason (let the electronics experts answer) it shortens the life of power supplies.

                Paul
                "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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                • Greebe
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 8555

                  #9
                  That would be a linear power supply is best for pelts, Paul

                  Use neoprene for a gasket material and you won't have to repack the pins every so many months.

                  (I'm not going to comment on you're "packing grease"! LOL
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                  • ALBPM
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 3868

                    #10
                    DOH!!!!!!

                    I do use neoprene inside and around the outside of the socket. Also have it surrounding the Peltier and cold plate.

                    But, I guess if it is humid enough the condensation will find the smalest air gaps and cause problems.

                    Paul
                    "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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                    • The PIT
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 11901

                      #11
                      Looks like you need a dehumidifier in the case as well
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                      • Greebe
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 8555

                        #12
                        eYuppers! Hey Paul that'll be a first, sure to get front page on [H]OCP!
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                        • Rags
                          Super MURCer
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 4052

                          #13
                          Yah, Paul!

                          Get a pound of that silicate stuff they put in shoes and hard drive boxes.....and just throw it in there

                          Rags
                          Last edited by Rags; 4 July 2001, 09:51.

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                          • cjolley
                            Super MURCer
                            • Aug 1999
                            • 7672

                            #14
                            You could build a de-humidifier out of a plastic pan and another Peltier and HS
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                            • Greebe
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 1999
                              • 8555

                              #15
                              or he could make a heatshield for the entire assembly, just like those used in evaporation type coolers by the likes of ASE Tech and Kyrogen.


                              Also increasing the amount of insulation would help prevent condensate from forming. This could be made out of polystyrene foam, placed on top of the neoprene. It has a much greater R rating.
                              "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                              "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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