Free speech hypocracy.....Part II

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  • Gurm
    MS Fanboy
    • Aug 1999
    • 11460

    #31
    WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

    WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

    DING FRIES ARE DONE

    DING FRIES ARE DONE
    The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

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    If only life were as easy as you
    I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
    If only life were as easy as you
    I would still get screwed

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    • Joel
      Moderator
      • Aug 1999
      • 3747

      #32
      I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had of followed our lead we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either. -- Trent Lott at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party
      That statement could have meant alot of different things but the news media went out of their way to decided what it meant and tell us so.

      Joel
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      • Byock
        Super MURCer
        • Jul 2000
        • 2328

        #33
        Originally posted by Gurm
        WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

        WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

        DING FRIES ARE DONE

        DING FRIES ARE DONE

        Yes!! Muwahahahaha!!
        "I dream of a better world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned."

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        • Gurm
          MS Fanboy
          • Aug 1999
          • 11460

          #34
          WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

          WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

          DING FRIES ARE DONE

          DING FRIES ARE DONE

          GREEBE WORKS AT BURGER KING, CAN YOU HEAR HIM SING, BURN HIS PEEPEE IN THE FRY-O-LATOR!

          WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

          WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT

          DING FRIES ARE DONE

          DING FRIES ARE DONE
          The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

          I'm the least you could do
          If only life were as easy as you
          I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
          If only life were as easy as you
          I would still get screwed

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          • KvHagedorn
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 10725

            #35
            Here's an example of something you will never see or hear about.. better buy this book quickly, before the PC crowd burns the last copy!

            From reviews:

            Among the horrors the reader will encounter is the savagery dealt out to citizens of the German town of Nemmersdorf which included crucifictions of women and the mass murder of children.
            Hitler allowed the SS to kill the Jews any which way they wanted. Chuchill and Roosevelt allowed Stalin and Benez to kill the Germans any which way they wanted. And they all did.
            Anything bad that happens to White people in general or Germans in particular is apparently "just desserts" according to the media dickheads that attempt to tell everyone how to think.. and seemingly will be til the end of time.

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            • thop
              Super MURCer
              • Mar 2001
              • 2536

              #36
              If what the books says is really true than it's the first time i heard about it, and the WW2 is tought quite thouroughly in school here (and very open at that, if i might add). why wouldn't they teach that here

              so i have my doubts about that book.
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              • thop
                Super MURCer
                • Mar 2001
                • 2536

                #37
                I just googled about Nemmerdorfs a bit and found this documentery entitled "The Truth about Nemmersdorf", from what i read it seems it was faked by the Nazis.

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                Or to be more precise: The killings were real, but the Nazis faked more cruel things than actually happened before they took pictures.
                Last edited by thop; 13 December 2002, 15:21.
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                • knirfie
                  MURCer
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 789

                  #38
                  sorry but free speech is just a concept, it doesnt excist anywhere but in the dreams of a few people, so there!
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                  • Byock
                    Super MURCer
                    • Jul 2000
                    • 2328

                    #39
                    Originally posted by knirfie
                    sorry but free speech is just a concept, it doesnt excist anywhere but in the dreams of a few people, so there!

                    BAH! It exists where "they" tell us it can.
                    "I dream of a better world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned."

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                    • Wombat
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 9498

                      #40
                      That statement could have meant alot of different things but the news media went out of their way to decided what it meant and tell us so.
                      No, I don't think it could. Put it into perspective with Lott's past actions, and you have a solid portrait of a racist.

                      In <I>The New Republic</I>
                      In 1978, the gentleman from Mississippi led the charge to posthumously restore citizenship status to Confederate President Jefferson Davis. Three years later, he lobbied for the restoration of tax breaks for segregated private schools. Representative Lott also voted against school busing and the creation of a federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King Jr., opposed continuation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and voted against extending the 1965 Voting Rights Act--twice. He also committed some early, notable "gaffes." In 1984, during his stint as chairman of the GOP Platform Committee, Lott boldly declared that "the spirit of Jefferson Davis" was alive and well in the Republican Party. (Which would suggest that Lott is proud not only of Mississippi's choice for president in 1948 but its choice in 1860 as well.) Worse yet for his current p.r. pickle, The Clarion-Ledger reported that in 1980 Lott gave this testimonial about Thurmond at a political rally in Jackson, Mississippi: "You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today." Thus, it seems last week's birthday remarks were neither wise nor original.
                      Factor in his support of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a white supremacy group, where he has been a guest speaker numerous times and meets with them regularly, with quotes like “The people in this room stand for the right principles and the right philosophy. Let's take it in the right direction, and our children will be the beneficiaries.”

                      More tidbits here: http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=7210
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                      • knirfie
                        MURCer
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 789

                        #41
                        and who might "they" be???

                        equals freedom of speech
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                        • Umfriend
                          Crabby Smurf
                          • Mar 2001
                          • 7308

                          #42
                          KvH: Stalin left a far larger portion of Germans to live than did Hitler with the Jews. And the russians had more reason to go after the germans with a vengeance than did hitler have to go after the Jews (none in the latter case).

                          Not saying that what the russians did can be excused, but the comparison SUCKS!

                          What's with Gurm anyway? Did I miss something?
                          Umf
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                          • knirfie
                            MURCer
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 789

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Umfriend
                            And the russians had more reason to go after the germans with a vengeance than did hitler have to go after the Jews (none in the latter case).
                            Actually, hitler did have his reasons, you should know, because you still get it with history.

                            edit: typo
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                            • Umfriend
                              Crabby Smurf
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 7308

                              #44
                              blahblahblah, sure he did. Any reason that, in a reasonable persons mind, would pass as plausible?
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                              • KvHagedorn
                                Super MURCer
                                • Aug 1999
                                • 10725

                                #45
                                Originally posted by thop
                                If what the books says is really true than it's the first time i heard about it, and the WW2 is tought quite thouroughly in school here (and very open at that, if i might add). why wouldn't they teach that here

                                so i have my doubts about that book.
                                Of course.. you wouldn't want to believe anyone but the nazis could be evil. Ask about Hamburg and Dresden.. and tell me if there ARE German communities east of the Oder/Neisse anymore.. go yourself and see.

                                How about this book?

                                from a review:

                                The loftly principles of Great Britain and France, going to war to ensure "Poland's Territorial integrity" as well as the aims of the Atlantic Charter signed by the U.S. were discarded. Hitler's methods of ethnic cleansing and forced deportations of civilians that were condemned, justly so, as war crimes at the Nuremberg Trials were embraced by his enemies after the war.
                                The point is, everyone is expected to decry Hitler as an "Icon of evil," as he was, and by association, Germans think ill of themselves even today (this is the continuing problem). Yet Stalin is somehow free of stigma when his crimes were arguably much worse. Why? Because he won. Might does not make right, but if, through might, only one view is allowed, who but the few will ever know the truth?

                                umf: Tell me what reason Stalin had to forcibly starve 7 million Ukrainians in the 30s... and does any average schoolchild even know about this episode to the extent they hear about the holocaust? Nope.
                                Last edited by KvHagedorn; 13 December 2002, 17:32.

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