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  • Joel
    Moderator
    • Aug 1999
    • 3747

    #31
    You know some people just don't get it even when you hit they up side the head with a hammer.

    Joel
    Libertarian is still the way to go if we truly want a real change.

    www.lp.org

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    System Specs: AMD XP2000+ @1.68GHz(12.5x133), ASUS A7V133-C, 512MB PC133, Matrox Parhelia 128MB, SB Live! 5.1.
    OS: Windows XP Pro.
    Monitor: Cornerstone c1025 @ 1280x960 @85Hz.

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    • bsdgeek
      Super MURCer
      • Feb 2002
      • 1543

      #32
      Poor bsdgeek doesn't have enough cash to get a new anything, let alone a new Matrox card...

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      • superfly
        MURCer
        • Dec 1999
        • 521

        #33
        Originally posted by Wombat
        So what? If this 19.2GB/s turns out to be true, how fast do you think the memory will be rated for?

        You're trying to compare the rumored shipping specs of Matrox's new card with the overclocked numbers that some Ti4600 users get from their cards.

        Even worse, you're theorizing that some cards might come slower than the rumored specs. So you're downgrading the Parhelia rumors to try to compare them to overclocked nVidia numbers. What kind of sense does that make?

        The reason i did downgrade some of the specs have to do with making them relatively afordable...Not everyone is willing to sink close to a grand to get the best version of the card you know...


        And far far as the GF4's memory clocks go, it's not that some get...all of them do at least as far as memory clocks go,there's a difference you know...


        But ultimately,memory bandwiths are fairly meningless anyhow,since it all depends on specific optimizations done on board the graphic chip itself,that'll determine overall performance...


        Suppose you use that much memory bandwith on a chip desing that uses deferred rendering tech,like the kyro chips use and add enough rendering pipelines and texture units to make use of it all,top it all off with a nice programable T.L engine and you'd have most likely enough rendering power to run any game at 1600*1200 with 4x AA enabled and 128 tap aniso at over 100 fps...in games like DOOM 3,and would most likely run circles around anything Matrox,Nvidia or ATI release this year....If it ever saw the light of day of course...
        note to self...

        Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

        Primary system :
        P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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        • superfly
          MURCer
          • Dec 1999
          • 521

          #34
          Originally posted by Rags

          Superfly, get back on your ATI bandwagon and keep your moronic statements to minimum here.

          Rags

          Wow...ATI bandwagon Rags....And here i though i was using an Nvidia card all this time...:.
          note to self...

          Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

          Primary system :
          P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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          • Rags
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 4052

            #35
            Originally posted by superfly



            Wow...ATI bandwagon Rags....And here i though i was using an Nvidia card all this time...:.
            Yep. You belong with an ATI...obviously you missed the joke

            Rags

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            • superfly
              MURCer
              • Dec 1999
              • 521

              #36
              Originally posted by Rags

              Yep. You belong with an ATI...obviously you missed the joke

              Rags


              That's a joke ...just one piece of advice really...


              Don't quit your day job....
              note to self...

              Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

              Primary system :
              P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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              • Rags
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 1999
                • 4052

                #37
                Originally posted by superfly




                That's a joke ...just one piece of advice really...


                Don't quit your day job....
                Yeah. I should take advice from you. Now THAT is a joke!

                Rags

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                • superfly
                  MURCer
                  • Dec 1999
                  • 521

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Rags

                  Yeah. I should take advice from you. Now THAT is a joke!

                  Rags

                  No i'm fairly sure you hear the same from others if that's the best you can do...
                  note to self...

                  Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

                  Primary system :
                  P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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                  • Rags
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 4052

                    #39
                    Originally posted by superfly



                    No i'm fairly sure you hear the same from others if that's the best you can do...
                    Not really...but my singing, well that's another story

                    Rags

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                    • Marshmallowman
                      Super MURCer
                      • Sep 1999
                      • 3416

                      #40
                      Its not going to be a cheap card, its a top end card(even the lower spec ones)

                      If you have the money It should be great..But I think for most of us 6months or a year after the initial release may the affordable time to buy.

                      Remember it will a 4 year life span(not 6 months), it will be "pro" high end to start, probably at least at least a year or so before it gets in to the normal users high end range.

                      Well thats my theory....my price point is going to be at about the $300 range, whens that going to happen?..

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                      • superfly
                        MURCer
                        • Dec 1999
                        • 521

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Rags

                        Not really...but my singing, well that's another story

                        Rags

                        Can't comment on that,but i'll take your word for it....
                        note to self...

                        Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

                        Primary system :
                        P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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                        • Rags
                          Super MURCer
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 4052

                          #42
                          Originally posted by superfly



                          ... i'll take your word for it....
                          Now that's what I call progress

                          Rags

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                          • superfly
                            MURCer
                            • Dec 1999
                            • 521

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Marshmallowman
                            Its not going to be a cheap card, its a top end card(even the lower spec ones)

                            Remember it will a 4 year life span(not 6 months), it will be "pro" high end to start, probably at least at least a year or so before it gets in to the normal users high end range.

                            Anyways back to the subject at hand...

                            There hasn't been a card yet that will realistically last 4 years as a viable gaming card for pretty much every game that will be released within that timeframe...


                            If parhelia ends up lasting the average 2~2 1/2 year lifespan,that's already not too shabby at all...
                            note to self...

                            Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

                            Primary system :
                            P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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                            • Marshmallowman
                              Super MURCer
                              • Sep 1999
                              • 3416

                              #44
                              yeah 4 years is pushing it, but there will some incremental upgrades along the way

                              And the end of it life cycle it will be cheap card pumped out for oems and business..at which time everybody will be saying Matrox has been out of the gaming market for so long and can no longer release a competive card..but the will still be in business and will probably release a new killer card anyway.

                              They have good business cycle going..it works

                              But back to the my orginal question...when will there bea $300(US) dollar version(thats $700(AUD ..ouch) by the time gets to Australia.

                              when do I get one?...

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                              • superfly
                                MURCer
                                • Dec 1999
                                • 521

                                #45
                                You won't have to wait long for answer...2 weeks roughly,right Kruzin?...
                                note to self...

                                Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....

                                Primary system :
                                P4 2.8 ghz,1 gig DDR pc 2700(kingston),Radeon 9700(stock clock),audigy platinum and scsi all the way...

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