Chris! need your help to post some Marvel G400 shots

[Elie]

Hi Sven,

For your first question..

No you don't need to have an XL1 to get the quality I did, basically what I'm trying to say is, if your original video is clean whether it's from VCR/Cam etc the output should be ruffly the same because the Marvel G400 is doing a great job at capturing and playback, take the Mpeg clip as an example.

Second question..

The stills where taken using PC-VCR while I was playing back the MJPEG clip, basically I just hit the camera button at made sure that the jpeg quality is set to maximum.

You should see the original MJPEG clip, I was simply amazed at the colour and brightness.

Now the quality difference between the RR-G and the Marvel I think should be the same.
I don't have the RR-G G400 combo so maybe some one else can comment.

Regards,
Elie

[kidspot]

Elie,

Thanks for posting the clips - I feel a lot better about buying my RRG now that I've been able to see the clean output.

Kidspot

[Haig]

Hi Elie,

"I can't speak on behalf of Matrox(Haig please correct me if I'm wrong) but it has something to do with the new generation Maven TV out chip producing much cleaner more vibrant colour output."

That's true, and we are also using a different decoder chip.

Haig

[RoGuE]

Hello Haig,

What's the reason for the RR-G shortage? Nowhere in England has them or knows when they will get them. The Matrox store also says out of stock. What gives?



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[Ernie]

Hi Elie,

Thanks for posting your sample MPEG files great to see. I am interested in the Marvel G400-TV just to capture and save to CD-ROM family video. So its nice to see what it can do. Would it be possible to post just a small part of the MJPEG file, to get an idea of what the raw input is like? I appreciate that whole file would be very large.

Your camera, XL1, is that a digital camera or just a standard VHS?

Thanks again.

[CMB]

Hi, HAIG.. i hopr you can advise me
you may remember that i had ordered a MAX and RRG and was sent the International version instead of the UK one
That was returned and i am now awaiting my MAX and RRG/UK My question is this

I have read on other forums that, the RRG and G400 have a verical jitter problem.. is this just a few isoloated cases, or something more widespread?

also in the messagse above in this forum, you mention that the marvel G400 uses a

"new generation Maven TV out chip producing much cleaner more vibrant colour output."we are also using a different decoder chip."

So with this imformation i am now tempted to cancel my order (which has been standing for a month now) and order a Marvel G400, from matrox which would also be cheaper by about £30 esepcially if the video quality is better.

so my rather long winded question is this..

From a purely video editing
point of view would you recommend a Marvel G400 over a RRG/G400 combination

is the about (even marginally) cleaner due to the new generation chips mentioned above??

or have i just taken everything the wrong way?

i would hate to wait another month only to have my cards delvered and have incomapatabiltiy probs, vertical jitters and the like, when i could have a Marvel in about a week? from Matrox online store??

my fate is in your hands...

CMB

[Elie]

Hi Ernie,

Do you know that I always capture at maximum quality
which means for every 1 second video it's aprox 3 mbps.
Soooo What I can do is either capture at lower res i.e. 352x240 or keep it at 704x480 with higher compression.
Either way, the video will degrade a bit.

Unless you want me to send a 1.5 second clip so you can see it for yourself when you playback using PC-VCR or Media player.

Your choice.

BTW: the XL1 is a digital 3CCD camcorder made by Canon.


Regards,
Elie

[This message has been edited by Elie (edited 22 October 1999).]

[Haig]

Hi guys,

Chris - They should be popping back up in a few weeks.

CMB - Both the RRG and the Marvel G400 use the new Maven tv out. Doing an A/B comparison between the RRG and a Marvel is pretty close but it does favour the Marvel G400 because of the new decoder.

The reason why the beta testers see a bigger difference is because they had a Marvel G200 with the original Maven TV Out and a different decoder.

What I would do if I were is decide what you need more, Ulead or Avid and choose accordingly.

Or, buy the Marvel from our on line store and test the death out of it once you get it. We have a 30 day money back policy if you're not happy with it and then, you can go with the Max/RRG.

Those vertical jitters that people were reporting were with the older drivers. The VT's that we just released with PD 5.25 should have fixed that.

Don't kid yourself, the Marvel G400 is no slouch for your gaming either unless you thrive for benchmarks .

Haig

[CMB]

Thank you Haig, again youve helped me out
i would choose video quality over speed anyday, and from what ive read above, i will be more then pleased :O)

i just hope the 16mg difference doesnt hamper gaming to much (im used to being locked in certain resses with the marvel g200)
but still my monitor cant go above 12xx by whatevr the other is anyway so hopefully i wont notice :O)

im off to order a Marvel from your online store right now :O)
thanks again

CMB

[RoGuE]

Thanks for the reply Haig.

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Chris.

[CMB]

just ordered my marvel,
thanks again Haig,
the issue for me was always video quality not software bundled, cos ill use mediastudio pro 5.2 anyway :O)
thanks again.
im off to sit by the window and wait for the van to arrive :O)

[Ernie]

Hi Elie,

Thanks for the offer of sending a sample MJPEG file. May main interest is just to save my home video to some media safer than tape, like CD. So I would like to at least maintain the original input quality, my video camera is only a standard VHS-C. So I believe capture resolution would only be the lower of the 2 options.
If you could send me sample of the original capture file I would be most grateful. You could try direct to my Email address. I have a hardware DVD player card, that I can try playing back through.

Thanks Ernie

[Elie]

Ernie,

If I send you the Mjpeg file, you can only view it if you have a RR-G or a Marvel G200 card.

However what I can do is convert the Mjpeg clip to MP2 which is very close in quality then I'll e-mail it to you.
Hows that?

Regards,
Elie

[Ernie]

Hi Elie,

Thats fine with me.

Thanks again.