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[Jerry Jones]

http://www.zdnet.com/products/storie...386980,00.html

[jeff b]

If you read the article closely, keeping in mind that the only real event he relates is having had his e-mail go unanswered, then the whole thing can be viewed as a pathetic flame... Of course, that doesn't mean that what he says isn't true.

[DrMordrid]

Dvorak sometimes states his case poorly but there is usually some insight if you dig deep enough ;^)

His opinion that Adobe is out of touch and that it's product line is a shambles is mark-on though.

The last two "updates" to Photoshop have been jokes and Premiere is far from a "premiere" product. It's compatability leaves a lot to be desired, even with vidcap cards it portends to support.

As for Acrobat; I HATE downloading a 200k doc file that ends up with only 5 double-spaced pages of unenhanced text. Who needs it? Bloatware.

There be trouble in Adobe city....

Dr. Mordrid

[Filmgeek]

It's an interesting article. But it's 8 months old, I'm surprised you're just reading it now. I know I won't get too many to agree, but I still prefer Premiere over MSP (but not on the Marvel) when it's working on other cards I think it's great. I agree, on Marvels it's a joke. I'm also biased since that's the package I learned in school, and after that on an Avid (not Avid Cinema, that program is absolute garbage, and the fact it has Avid's name on it makes me sick. I'm talking about their pro turnkey systems), but I couldn't get a home version of that (they ain't cheap). That being said I hate Macs, even though I like Adobe software, who still writes windows programs like they're gonna run on a Mac.

I do agree the last few upgrades for PS (5.0 and 5.5) have not given me enough of a reason to upgrade, but I'm perfectly happy to use 4.0. And I must admit Acrobat is bloated and at times unnecessary (although it does have its place).

I think it's interesting to substitute "Adobe" for "Matrox" in the article:

Adobe is going through an identity crisis and suffering from isolationism, which leaves it open to attack from Microsoft. The company's future is not secure.

Matrox is going through an identity crisis and suffering from isolationism, which leaves it open to attack from its competitors. The company's future is not secure.

Filmgeek



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[Jerry Jones]

Interesting commentary, FilmGeek.

I suppose I prefer MediaStudio Pro
over Premiere for the same reason:
I learned on MediaStudio Pro and I've
learned to exploit its strengths to the
max and I've also learned to minimize
its weaknesses. It gets the job done
rather consistently... and MSPro has
a lot of tools built-in that with
Premiere would require buying additional
plug-in software.

I suppose that had I learned on Premiere,
I would've preferred Premiere. But keep
in mind, Premiere 5 has only been out since,
what, spring of last year???

MediaStudio Pro 5.2 has been out since the
Fall of 1997.

Premiere 5 is wayyyy different than
Premiere 4.2 as far as the interface is
concerned.

Actually, I read the Dvorak piece when it
was published earlier this year... and
I think the gist of his commentary is this:

Adobe Premiere stands a chance of being
renamed "Microsoft Premiere" if Microsoft
continues its predatory market behavior.

His point is well-taken about Microsoft
now entering the image editing and desktop
publishing arena formerly dominated by
Adobe and Corel.

If anybody stands a good chance of being
taken over... I think it's Corel. I
read earlier this year... that Adobe...
in an effort to become "bigger" and better
able to fend off Microsoft... was looking
at taking over Corel... mostly for the
WordPerfect word processor since Adobe
currently has no word processor per se
other than what is built-in to PageMaker, etc. Of course, the last article I read
quoted Corel officials as "denying" the
Adobe takover reports:

http://europe.cnnfn.com/digitaljam/n...es/126228.html

[DrMordrid]

Premiere RT is in there because no other realtime software was available at this time and in this price range.

Lest we forget Ulead IS releasing an SDK for developing a realtime plugin for MediaStudio Pro 6.0 so this situation might not be for long if Matrox gets the message.

Do I hear an e-mail campaign coming on? ;-))

Dr. Mordrid

[jeff b]

Doc... just wondering about RT2000, now, since it's going to ship with Premiere RT. It sure would be a drag to find that Adobe was sliding off into la-la land with the RT2000 married to it, at the outset. Of course, if Dvorak's correctly spotted the next Bill Gates victim, and Adobe ended up as part of the MS software cartel, then maybe by 2001 Premiere might be compatible with the Microsoft Hal 9000.

"Hal! Open the pod bay door!"
"I'm sorry, Dave, but I can't do that."