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    I recorded some video using PC-VCR remote in 352x288 /pal format with the purpose of making a a video CD out of it.

    The resulting video consisted of three AVI files of 2 gigabytes each, the duration of each file is about 24 minutes. I Converted each file to mpeg-1 using VCD compliant mpeg-1 settings. Each *.mpg file is about 250 mb big and plays fine.

    My problem is: I want to join these three files into one big mpeg-1 file, to make viewing the movie on a computer easier. I realize that joining the files is unnecessary if I want to view the movie on a DVD player, but it does make life a lot easier if you want to view the file on a PC with Windows Media Player. I tried several programs, but none would work reliably:

    "Ordix Mpack" :the program reports: "an unexpected error has occurred, please submit a bug report."

    "Camel MpegJoin" 1.07 b: The program SEEMS to work. the resulting *.MPG file plays fine in Media Player. However, after creating a VCD from it, only the first 24 minutes in the *.DAT file are viewable, everything beyond this point is unaccessable. Media player locks up!

    "Ifilmedit" 1.4 trial: This "trial" version is severely crippled, it refuses to join my 3 files because the resulting output is longer than 5 minutes... There's no way of telling if it will reliably handle large files. And if I really don't know if the program works, I certainly won't buy it.

    Come on, guys, it just can't be too difficult to stitch three files together in a VCD compliant manner. Why is this simple "feature" missing in all standalone Mpeg converters? What's the big deal anyway? If the built-in MPG filter in MSPRO weren't so lousy in quality, it would solve all my problems.

    Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

  • #2
    i've used webflix pro successfully, however because you're opening up the GOPS there is a bit of glitching at the stitching.

    if you convert each avi to mpg, then the VCD2.0 format allows you to have avseq01, avseq02 etc and they playback in order with a little pause between each segment. that's if you were burning vcd of course.

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    • #3
      I'll try Webflix. I'm aware of the sequential playing method on VCD's, but Media Player doesn't support it.
      Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

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      • #4
        Crippleware again.
        No way of knowing if it handles big files correctly. I've come across quite a few programs that work nicely on small files and crash on big ones (such as ordix mpack). No try, no buy.
        Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

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        • #5
          I'm joined MPEG correctly with a program named "Jiao VCDCutter".
          I don't remember the webpage ...
          Search in altavista, yahoo, etc.

          Regards.

          ------------------
          Pedro J. Torres Almenta
          Ronda (Malaga)
          Spain
          Pedro.

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          • #6
            Pixeltools MpegRepair can do this.

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            • #7
              I have joined two 200 Mb files with audio with Ifilmedit and all Ok.
              Now I need Info re VCD creation.
              Did one with "NTI CD Maker" demo but cant get it to play.
              Any help appreciated.
              Clem Reid
              Toshiba P200 notebook
              Dual core 2.16Ghz
              2Gb Ram
              2 x 160Gb HDD
              XP Pro
              DVD Multi drive

              Intel P4P800 865PE
              2GB DDR333
              1 x 120Gb SATA Seagate 7200
              WXP Pro
              A06 DVD Writer
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              40Gb ATA Seagate 7200
              200Gb ATA Seagate 7200
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              • #8
                Cuddles, how do you know if it's OK if you can't play your VCD? Try this:

                - make a shortcut to windows media player on your desktop

                -"drag and drop" the *.DAT file which is in the \mpegav directory of your video CD onto this shortcut

                -see if you can play the whole lot...

                Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

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                • #9
                  Thanks FD,
                  The joined mpg file plays as good as originals
                  However the .dat file does not play in medial player or Mv/Play(Microsft/AFX) whatever that is.
                  Any more hints wolud be appreciated
                  Clem Reid
                  Toshiba P200 notebook
                  Dual core 2.16Ghz
                  2Gb Ram
                  2 x 160Gb HDD
                  XP Pro
                  DVD Multi drive

                  Intel P4P800 865PE
                  2GB DDR333
                  1 x 120Gb SATA Seagate 7200
                  WXP Pro
                  A06 DVD Writer
                  Samsung CDR/RW

                  Intel 815EP P111 1ghz
                  512mg 133Ram
                  40Gb ATA Seagate 7200
                  200Gb ATA Seagate 7200
                  WXP
                  Samsung CDR/RW
                  Poineer DVD Rom

                  1 X 250Gb ATA Seagate 7200 in caddie
                  1X 250GB Maxtor in Caddie

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                  • #10
                    Hi Cuddles,
                    Media Player is a file called "mplayer.exe" or "mplayer2.exe" and should be somewhere on your pc (search for it). I recommend downloading the latest version since it has some improvements. Media player can definitely play DAT files - I do it all the time.
                    Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks again FD
                      I have mplayer.exe and the clip starts to play but is very slow and static.

                      Maybee i have a suitability problem for VCD
                      What data rate do you use when encoding to mpg?
                      And are there any other things I should be wary of.
                      Happy New Year
                      Clem Reid
                      Toshiba P200 notebook
                      Dual core 2.16Ghz
                      2Gb Ram
                      2 x 160Gb HDD
                      XP Pro
                      DVD Multi drive

                      Intel P4P800 865PE
                      2GB DDR333
                      1 x 120Gb SATA Seagate 7200
                      WXP Pro
                      A06 DVD Writer
                      Samsung CDR/RW

                      Intel 815EP P111 1ghz
                      512mg 133Ram
                      40Gb ATA Seagate 7200
                      200Gb ATA Seagate 7200
                      WXP
                      Samsung CDR/RW
                      Poineer DVD Rom

                      1 X 250Gb ATA Seagate 7200 in caddie
                      1X 250GB Maxtor in Caddie

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                      • #12
                        Hi there Cuddles,

                        MPEG-1 for VCD has VERY VERY strict parameters. The data rate adds up to 150 kilobytes/ second which matches the speed of a 1x CDROM.

                        Audio: 224 kbits/sec stereo (44.1 KHz-16 bit) in mpeg audio layer 2 format,
                        Video: 1123 kbits/sec constant bitrate, 352x288x25 frames/s (pal) or 352x240x29.97 frames/s(ntsc). Aspect ratio=4:3.

                        Total constant bitrate=1360 kbits/sec. If your cd recording software creates a \mpegav\*.DAT file, everything seems OK.

                        CPU power: a P-166 MMX is minimum for non-drop full-screen video. More may be required if your cdrom or hard disk doesn't support DMA.


                        Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

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                        • #13
                          Many thanks FD
                          the only bit I can't follow is "support DMA"
                          Thanks again
                          Clem Reid
                          Toshiba P200 notebook
                          Dual core 2.16Ghz
                          2Gb Ram
                          2 x 160Gb HDD
                          XP Pro
                          DVD Multi drive

                          Intel P4P800 865PE
                          2GB DDR333
                          1 x 120Gb SATA Seagate 7200
                          WXP Pro
                          A06 DVD Writer
                          Samsung CDR/RW

                          Intel 815EP P111 1ghz
                          512mg 133Ram
                          40Gb ATA Seagate 7200
                          200Gb ATA Seagate 7200
                          WXP
                          Samsung CDR/RW
                          Poineer DVD Rom

                          1 X 250Gb ATA Seagate 7200 in caddie
                          1X 250GB Maxtor in Caddie

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                          • #14
                            Just like IDE hard drives, IDE CDROM's support certain PIO modes and -if you're lucky- certain DMA modes. Note: these must be enabled in the bios as well, so check this out first. DMA mode is especially important if you need to play video at HIGH data rates, such as mpeg-2 or even "plain" Matrox MJPEG/AVI format.

                            If your CDROM is of the IDE/ATAPI type, you can check this out in the device manager in the control panel (start-settings-control panel). Note that the "DMA" checkbox may not be there if you use a non-Microsoft driver for your IDE system.
                            Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

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