SVCD creatation / (de-)interlace?

[Karlson]

Hi folks,

sorry to ask again. I stll do not realy understand.

I plan to produce a SVCD from some MARVEL G400 TV captured source. So the source is (I assume) field based, B, odd, or whatever first.

SVCD spec says, it is interlaced, too. So I assume that I do not have to de-interlace. In fact, I shouldn't de-interlace. It would make the job worse.

I tried out, but it did not look good. Then I said to myself: couldn't it be that the DVD player I use is used to field-order A, even, or whatever it is called? So I swapped fields with VirtualDub.

Now it looks better, though I'm still unsure.

Can anybody tell me about his successfull settings in either Tsunami or CCE?

[Dr Mordrid]

Whenever I produce MPEG's for VCD, SVCD and DVD I export them as field order A.

Dr. Mordrid

[Karlson]

Thanks Doc,

But what then?

I think it should be like this:

- Capture in HuffYuv
- Resize and swap field order with VirtualDub (for test)
- or cut and create with HuffYuv, field order A (production)
- Encode it with e.g. TMpegEnc:
- on first sheet select interlaced
- on second sheet (source) select interlaced, field order A

*** I repeat: I do not de-interlace. Correct? ***
??? Or should I e.g. use smart deinterlace in step 2 ???

While I wrote this, I encoded and burnt. It did looked that impressive. Quite jumpy. I will now try to de-interlace, first.

I'll keep you informed.

Best Regards,
Karlson.

[Dr Mordrid]

Here's my seqnence with MSPro 6.5;

Capture HUFFYUV (or PICVideo MJPeg @Q20) using AVI_IO segmented captures
Edit in a custom project using HUFFYUV (or PICVideo) compression & field B
Export using internal encoder to VCD, SVCD or DVD preset using
field A

I *rarely* use VirtualDUB's smart delacing. Mostly with a problem source before feeding it to MSPro 6.5. I actually prefer FilmRender's smart delacing, but it's a discontinued product.

For many sources PICVideo at Quality=20 is good enough for general purpose video. HUFFYUV always gets the call for problem sequences, effects sequences and keys (blue/greenscreen).

The only time I set "frame based" field options on the timeline is when using moving paths or PIP's (picture-in-picture effects using moving paths)

The RT-2000 has its own sequence since I frameserve Premiere's timeline to TMPGEnc using the AVISynth plugin & scripting tool. It's range of effects is nothing short of incredible, especially with the new 3.1 Video Tools.

Dr. Mordrid

[Karlson]

Thanks, that was interesting. So does it mean, that you use the built-in Ligos MPEG encoder in this case (and probably also the DVD plug-in to create and burn)?

Anyway, I seem to be on the right track to use an interlaced field order A source to feed an encoder and produce an INTERLACED MPEG-2 for an SVCD.

Maybe I have to play a bit more with the opther options, because currently, the result does not look so well...

[Dr Mordrid]

I use the built-in DVD Plugin's encoder for a lot of burning.

The only things that go to TMPGEnc now are frameserves from the RT-2000 by way of Premiere and problem sources.

As far as burning goes, I use the DVD Plugin for personal stuff like kiddie & family videos etc. It's plenty good for those.

For more "pro" stuff like SVCD with layered menus, miniDVD, cDVD or DVD I'm using DVD Motion Pro or DVDiT.

Dr. Mordrid