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    Hey guys I bought an AMD K6-2 500 processor today to replace my old K6-2 300. This is because I can't afford a new motherboard and my old one said that it would support it. Anyway I popped it in and changed the jumpers accordingly. When I booted it up it read 'AMD K6-2 400Mhz'. Hmmm this isn't right. So I turned it off double checked the manual and replaced the jumpers just incase one wasn't quite making a connetion. Booted it up, 400 again. So I carryed on loading anyway and ran Direct-X Diagnostic. Now this reports I do have a 500Mhz processor. So which is lieing? The Bios or Direct-X? Do I need to flash by bios?

    Also I read somewhere that an AMD K6-2 500 would easily be able to handle 'DivX' films. And although playback is a little better then my 300 it is still not smooth. I have only got 64MB of RAM but still.

    Any help would be nice

    Oh and my system is....
    Drum Roll please....

    AMD K6-2 500 (or is 400)?
    TopElite Motherboard with Ali Chipset (What can I say it was cheap)
    64MB of PC100 RAM
    Matrox Marvel G400-TV

    etc..etc..

    Cheers Tinnes
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  • #2
    I should check the jumpers again and download the latest bios!

    Another idea is to check it against Sisoft Sandras benchmark that has a system with a K6-2 500 with 64 mb as a comparence system!

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    • #3
      The chip is running at 500 MHz - your bios simply doesn't know about processors faster than 400.
      Resistance is futile - Microborg will assimilate you.

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      • #4
        Hey Tinnes,

        the best way to check your CPU-frequency is downloading WCPUID: http://www.tweakfiles.com/processor/wcpuid.html
        It actually counts your frequency, so it can't be wrong.

        And yes, I think the most important thing for you would be to flash your bios. My guess is that your CPU is actually running at 500MHz, but the 'closest match' in your (old) bios list will be the 400MHz-version. A bios upgrade would probably solve that.

        [This message has been edited by MarkD (edited 22 June 2000).]
        AMD-K6-2-300, EPOX-58MVP3C-M,
        Marvel G400, 64MB+64MB(PC100+PC133), Maxtor DM40PLUS 30GB,
        W98 (no SE), currently no overclocking (FSB=100)

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        • #5
          Flying Dutchman is correct. I have the same situation. The Bios just reports the IC if it knows it or the closest it can find. he board does run at the jumpered speed however. If a bios update is available you should do it, the k6-2/500 has a slightly faster core but you need a new bios to take advantage of it. It's not that much faster.
          Mine: Epox EP-8KTA3, Matrox G400 32mb DH + RRG, Athlon 1.2/266, 256mb, WD 30gb ATA100, Pio 32x CDROM, Adaptec 2940U2W, WD 18.3GB 10k U2W, Yamaha CDRW4416, Pio DVD-303, Scsi Zip 100, Seagate 10/20 Gb tape, SBlive platinum, Linksys 10/100 nic, HP 712c printer, HP 6200 scanner, Linksys 4port cable router, Linksys 2port print server/switch
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          • #6
            There has been a problem concerning DivX movies and the matrox G400, try deleting the DivX_c32.ax file in the windows\system32 directory. The playback will now be much smoother.

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            • #7
              Hmm the plot thickens. I must have looked EVERYWHERE for an update for either my Chipset, Motherboard or BIOS. The only thing I did find was this Bus mastering thing for my Ali chipset which actually slowed down my system. Which was POOR.

              So anyway after being DEEPLY disapointed in both Mpeg-2 and Mpeg-4 (Divx) playback. I desided to try and overclock, see if I could squeeze a bit more speed out of it. So I originally set it on (5*100) and so then proceded to change it up to (5.5*100). Ok first of all the BIOS recognised it as a 522!! It continued to boot up and then half way though loading windows reported a registry error. It said I needed to restart, so I went along with it but every time it keeps reporting this error. I then changed it again so it was (5.5*95). This time the BIOS was still reporting 522Mhz which was actually about right this time. Windows actually loaded up sucessfully and everything was working fine. However playback was still like some sort of out-of-sink slide show.

              Watrox: I found the file in just Windows\System not System32 but anyway I deleted it like you said and I have to say it made NO difference what so ever.

              However after what you said I removed my Matrox and replaced it with my OLD 2Mb 'S3' card. DivX playback was actually lot better, not perfect but better. Some bits where silky smooth while other parts where really jerky. Towards the end of the Matrix trailer lip sink was slightly out but not half as bad as with the Matrox.

              Mark D: Yeah when my BIOS reports 400Mhz, WCPUID does say that actually have a 500Mhz.

              Thanks for your suggestions so far guys.

              Cheers

              Tinnes
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              • #8
                Tinnes:
                When overclocking it is sometimes necessary to bump up the cpu voltage a notch for stable performance. Frankly I find the prospect a little scary, as this naturally carries the risk of shortening the cpu lifespan (it sure did with my old Cyrix!). Many other overclockers swear by it. Anyone with experience with this processor chime right in.
                Kevin

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                • #9
                  In my experiences overclocking the K6-x systems run into two problems;

                  1. the mainboards are generally not high enough in quality to allow significant O/C'ing. The problems are mainly poor voltage regulation, small bus capacitors and chipset bugs. These lead to the poor AGP and PCI performance common to these boards.

                  2. the K6-x chips are running closer to the edge of their potential than the Celerons and have slower FPU's.

                  If you want a REAL upgrade check out the new AMD Durons. They'll need a new socketA mainboard, but it looks like they're very fast and very overclockable.

                  Dr. Mordrid


                  [This message has been edited by Dr Mordrid (edited 28 June 2000).]

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                  • #10
                    In order to O/C the K6-2 with good results you must use 'heat sink compound' from any electronics shop in your town. To use the compound take the CPU fan off and just spread a film of the compound over the top of the CPU and put the fan back on. Bingo you have a much cooler CPU because the compound will transfer the heat from the CPU to the CPU fan much better than without it.

                    I have O/C'd many K6-2's and have had all of them work as solid as a rock. I must say that an increase in core voltage is in order for the chips to run at higgher clock rates. The amount you increase the voltage would be in steps. You would set your CPU speed to the speed you want to O/C to, then you restart. If you get the windows general protection error etc then you will need to bump up the voltage to the next available voltage (I ran a 2.2v 350Mhz chip at 2.6v 450Mhz with great results). Dont get too crazey with the voltage and if you dont use the compound then it will not work well if at all and you really increase the 'Fry Factor'. Another thing you should think about is the CPU fan/heatsink you use, it should be of good quality.

                    also spend some more time looking for your new BIOS, the results are well worth it.

                    check out www.tomshardware.com or www.anandtech.com for more info on O/Cing.

                    Good luck and I hope you get the performance you need from the gear you have.

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                    • #11
                      The 2.2v processors overclock much better than the 2.4v versions. I get at least 50mhz increase with them. My 2.4v 450 will not increase at all. Best it'll overclock is 448 @112
                      Mine: Epox EP-8KTA3, Matrox G400 32mb DH + RRG, Athlon 1.2/266, 256mb, WD 30gb ATA100, Pio 32x CDROM, Adaptec 2940U2W, WD 18.3GB 10k U2W, Yamaha CDRW4416, Pio DVD-303, Scsi Zip 100, Seagate 10/20 Gb tape, SBlive platinum, Linksys 10/100 nic, HP 712c printer, HP 6200 scanner, Linksys 4port cable router, Linksys 2port print server/switch
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                      • #12
                        Looks like you clearly have a 500mhz K6-2
                        I wouldnot not overclock it at all If I were you except if you can boost your fsb (But whatever happens do not make your pci goes further than 35Mhz.)
                        Your problem is very likely your Ram.
                        If you can try to change your cas delay in the bios (But if it fails expect to reinstall windows all over again it sometimes destroys the registry beyond repairs.)
                        Then go on a freeware spot (nonags.com, softseek.com or whatever ) and try to find cacheman, regcleaner, and clean system directory.
                        First run clean system and it will report dll that are not curently used, and then if you want you will be able to move them into another directory. (rember this directory well because you might have to bring one or two dll back.)
                        Then regcleaner will destroy all invalid reg entries (making back-ups of course. Fell free to delete others if you notice some you do not need.
                        Then run cacheman and put it in mode cd writter.
                        Finally set your min and max virtual memory to 128Meg on a fast disk.

                        Kha

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                        • #13
                          Ok I opened up Media Player 6.4 and went to View then Options. I then slided the Hardware Acceleration bar down to the second notch and now Divx playback is MUCH MUCH smoother!!! Still not perfect but now it's almost watchable.

                          P.S. I want an Athlon.

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                          • #14
                            To hell with just a run-of-the-mill Athlon.

                            I want a damn Sledgehammer when they come out!!

                            Dr. Mordrid

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                            • #15
                              I'm not gready an Athlon would suit me fine......till I got one then I would of course want something better. It's human nature I guess.

                              I havne't heard of the Sledgehammer? I heard about the Thunderbird, is Sledgehammer the next one?

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