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    My new Canon Elura should be here any day. Doc, if I may, I'd like to tap your friend's firsthand experience by asking what external mic he is using with his Elura. I also ordered the docking unit and will want to use an external mic. Since he is pleased with his, I might seek out the same kind. I figure I will only get one opportunity to capture good sound and I want good quality. Thanks again to you and your friend for the advice. (my DV setup is really coming along)

  • #2
    He's out of town for a few days (the lucky dog is a professional muskelunge tournament fisherman!) but when he returns I'll give him a ring and find out.

    I never bothered to check the brand/model of his mic. I was too busy playing with the Elura itself

    Dr. Mordrid


    [This message has been edited by Dr Mordrid (edited 18 July 2000).]

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    • #3
      He is lucky. I'm a trout fisherman at times, but those I have met who fish for muskies and other pike tell me I need to experience that before I claim a healthy smallmouth or big rainbow puts up a great fight. Anyway, I'll wait to learn what mic he has when he returns. I'm excited about the Elura and getting great video for a change. I'll have to use the S-out for a bit with my G200TV but true firewire capture is not far away. All the ingredients coming together. Soon time to brew.

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      • #4
        Yeah, I'm looking at moving up from my Panasonic PV-DV910 to the Elura. I wish I'd had the $$ for it to start with but....

        That said the Panasonic has been a good cam for me and will likely stay in the case as a backup/2nd shooter.

        Fishing diversion

        As far as the muskie experience goes, YES, you need to get one of those under your belt before saying anything about any other species. These guys are at the top of the freshwater food chain.

        In Michigan I believe muskelunge have to be about 3.5 feet long (just over a meter for you Euros) to keep them. This small example would run between 15 and 25 pounds (about 7 to 11.7 kilos). Large trophy class muskies often run up to 60 pounds or more. Typical catches often hit 50 inches and 30-40 lbs.

        Muskelunge are very ill temered, fight like posessed demons, have a mouth full of large, barracuda-like teeth and they are very willing to use them.

        Hauling one into a boat can be an interesting experience. This often results in the muskie thrashing around violently, biting everything IN the boat and evicting the fishermen OUT of the boat in short order. The last time I saw this happen a 50+ lb muskie caused 4 guys to vacate a 16' bass boat. Because of this a gaff hook is highly recommended for landing them, but even this is no guarantee of safety

        To give you an idea of their bite: I've had several bite right through an 80 pound test stranded stainless steel leader on the strike, leaving me with the remaining line and a swivel for my efforts. My friend has a 4" scar on his wrist where one clamped on and tried to remove his hand. It took over 40 stitches to close it.

        This is not too unusual. There are documented cases in Michigan and Minnesota of muskies taking small dogs for a snack or biting swimmers. Check this page for minor bite stories and some pictures;

        http://duluth.about.com/citiestowns/...gy/biol08.html

        Take particular note of the story of the cop on vacation.

        And then there are the Tiger muskies. These are a sterile hybrid of muskelunge and northern pike that is even meaner.

        Dr. Mordrid


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        • #5
          Now when in a fairly deep stream with my waders on I'll be having muskie jitters. They say those things aren't in southern streams but I suspect they are. Some years ago in a river in the upper part of Virginia I hooked something strange (strange because this was supposedly trout and smallmouth country). Perhaps it was a chain pickeral or gar but it was a powerful mean fish with the general shape of a pike. It COULD have been a muskie. It got off my hook which might have been lucky for me. I had a small net that a sharp toothed fish could have chewed through easily. It's possible that the fish was not hooked but only holding on and fighting for it's prize and let go when it realized it was a setup. These bite stories are something though. How easy it is to forget that a nice pretty stream might still have some ancient monsters in it.

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          • #6
            Muskies have been known to carry a lure right up to the boat and then spit it out after putting up a hellatious fight. That plus they have a relatively hard mouth.

            Some say it takes 10,000 casts on average to get a muskie strike and another 10,000 to recover from the experience

            Darned nasty critters they are....and well worth the effort.

            Dr. Mordrid

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            • #7
              That thing I "hooked" must have had a hard mouth. It pounced on a thing that nowadays would be called a rat-l-trap. It really is not a jig for rivers but I was throwing into fairly deep pools in the river with slower currents. The jig had hooks hanging everywhere on it. A largemouth, crappie etc. would have been a goner grabbing it like that mystery fish did. Must have been something with a hard mouth.

              Those muskie stats says odds are it was not a muskie. Probably a gar or pickeral relative, which again, if a gar, I am glad I didn't land it. I have no intention of handling a live gar. Would just have to shoot the fish and then remove the hook. BTW, I had 8 pound test on that reel.

              I would imagine there are muskies in those big lakes that would be fishing dreams and nightmares too. A fish capable of intentionally lunging for human flesh that also grows to sizes approaching 100 pounds makes one think differently about wading in fresh water. I weigh well over 200 pounds but in the water, something that big would have a definite advantage. There have been unexplained disappearances in fresh water. One never knows.

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              • #8
                And what in the world does this have to do with NLE?!!

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                • #9
                  Hoping your bud has the DVCAM along when you land the big one is what it has to do with NLE :-)

                  --wally.

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                  • #10
                    Muskies aren't quite big enough for causing human disappearances, but we do have critters that can account for a few of those.

                    Within 15-20 miles of Detroit there have been many photo/video documented sightings of panthers (aka: cougars) over the last 20 years. This has coincided with an explosion in the whitetail deer population.

                    In the midst of the controversy over these sightings one Michigan Dept. of Natural Resources official was fishing near his lakeside home when a panther walked down for a drink, scaring said official ****less

                    This happened about a week after the same official was on the local news saying Michigan had no big cats

                    Dr. Mordrid



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                    • #11
                      No Panthers, but big cats, so called mountain lions (cougars) are reappearing here in Virginia also. In fact, their numbers are increasing rapidly. A friend of mine lives near a small pond and routinely watches them drink from it and then disappear back into the woods. So far, they seem to be doing only what big cats should do, i.e., taking rabbits, mice and I would guess the bigger ones are taking some deer up in the mountains. I'm glad they are back. In the early 1970's they could routinely be seen. Then they disappeared because of hunting, trapping and plain old being driven out. I hope this time around people will just let these cats be. A hunter should not encounter these shy cats but a smart hunter should also be aware of them and watch for remains of things they have killed. For obvious safety reasons I don't walk through the woods with the .270 cocked, but the sidearm is always only seconds away from ready. Still, my greatest fear in the woods is other hunters.

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                      • #12
                        Know how you feel. What with the big cats and bear populations so close to, and sometimes IN, the small cities & towns going into the woods unarmed falls into the catagory of just-plain-stupid.

                        When I'm hunting my "guardian angel" is a 10mm Desert Eagle semi-auto. This gun saved my life some years ago when a friend and I were attacked by a PO'ed 450 pound wild boar in Kentucky while shooting some wildlife photos & stock footage.

                        As for hunting my deer/bear season long-arm is either a Remington 760 pump 30-06 with custom 180/220g loads or a Ruger .44 magnum semi-auto carbine with 300g hollow or silver points. During the primitive weapons season my weapon of choice is a customized .50 cal Thompson Center Hawken plains rifle shooting 500g sabots.

                        Dr. Mordrid


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                        • #13
                          I only carry a "tiny" little .40 cal Sigarms semi-auto at my side. I do keep Winchester Super-X Silvertip HP in it though. Still, I think it would not have been enough to stop that boar. That magnum research you killed it with must be a monster. It should be called "death." I am not familiar with it but I shot a desert eagle .44 mag and it was awsome. What a beautifully designed semi auto. Anyway, remembering the jolt of that .44 I know that 10mm must be an incredible blast to fire. The only 10mm I ever shot was a Colt Delta Elite. That thing would rock too. Balistically, 10mm is simply incredible. It definately would take something like that to drop half a ton of mean pig. There is no question that that thing would have killed one or possibly both of you.

                          30-06 sort of fell out of favor with me a few years back after I shot my first .270 Browning BAR. It just seemed to shoot straighter and flatter. It may be my imagination but I have stayed with it since. I don't take careless shots at whitetail and the kills I have had in recent years have been with .270. The animal might lunge forward but not very far. Many say the .270 packs more punch than the .30-06. What do you think? My other favorite is my Browing BAR Mark II. It's .308 and a sweet little shooter. It's the other reason my NLE efforts have been stop and start. I have now curbed my impulsive electronics buying but riles are another story.

                          Speaking of other Cannons like your Ruger .44 you mentioned, I stopped by a dealer the other day and the first thing they did is put a .450 Marlin rifle in my hands. It's a really short rifle. The kind of thing I would want if ever poking around in the brush for wild boar. My hunting though is limited to Deer and perhaps turkey when I'm feeling really patient. I almost purchased a .338 win mag last year with plans to move up to bigger game but decided to hold off. I just don't have the overall equipment and hunting skills to do the necessary tracking etc. to go after the big beasts. Plus, there aren't any Moose or Elk around here, at least none that I have seen or heard about.

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                          • #14
                            The 10mm Desert Eagle will blast throgh 1/4" of steel plate like a drill with solids. The boar took 4 of them. Two grazed off his skull, the third broke his back and the fourth was the killshot. He had one 6" and one 8" tusk and definitely would have killed someone if he had the chance.

                            The 30-06 suffers from what I call commercial-ammoitis. The guns themselves are one of the best designs ever created. The ammo you buy for it in the stores is mostly mass produced crud. I load my own using RCBS reloading gear. With these it shoots hot, straight and hard. As in <1" groups at 100 yds with <2" of drop. The Remington 760 pump is good for this as the barrel is naturally floated due to the design.

                            As for the Ruger .44mag carbine; it can shoot through small trees and still drop a deer in one shot. With the heavy load it can drop a bear in one shot. Nasty brush gun.

                            The .50 TC Hawken is in another zone altogether. With a heavy load the 500g sabots could enter the rear of a car, go through the whole thing and shatter the engine. Tons of stopping power.

                            The last time I had it chronographed it was pushing 3800-4000 ft/lbs of energy with a .50 cal 410g bullet (and a totally outrageous load of 3X black powder). That's about double a 30-06's energy. It only has a single shot, but if you hit any part of the target it's going down

                            Dr. Mordrid



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                            • #15
                              Dchip,
                              Your feelings about the 270 vs 30-06 are right on the mark, it's basically exactly what is was supposed to be -- necked down 30-06 to shoot flatter with less recoil. It was the "baby" of gun writer Jack O'Connor but started falling out of favor with the introduction of the 7mm Remmington magnum.

                              The 243 Winchester is the same idea applied to the 308 (which basically a shortened 30-06).

                              Doc,
                              Surly you jest about the brush-bustin' capabilities of the .44 Mag carbine.
                              Most any rifle will shoot through a small tree, but if you takeout anything, it was luck not magical powers of the bullet.

                              This is an election year in the US with important but tough choices to make if you value your 2nd Admendment Rights.

                              Favorite bumper stickers:
                              "Politicians prefer unarmed peasants"
                              "Its not about guns, its about control"

                              --wally.

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