MSPro PowerPatch II: updated info....

[Ted222]

Hey DOC,

Any chance the patch will include something similar to the DVD Workshop Patch that allows for using the Matrox RT-type video/audio files? I am getting better with Premiere, but I sure would like my MSP back....

Ted

[Brian Ellis]

Wally

I agree! I'd have no objection to that. It's mixing the order that is plumb crazy

Doc

If 1/3 3 sounds queer for 3 1/3, why do you write it 1 3 /3? And it's not exactly correct what you say. It's true that, in English, we don't tend to use cardinal numbers in spoken language, so much as ordinal, but we do say things like "war was declared on the 3rd of September 1939" or "September the third", but we never say "September 3" or, for that matter, "3 September". In written English both "3rd September 1939" or "3 September 1939" are acceptable.

In French, on dit "le 3 septembre 1939" and this is correct in both spoken and written French. In German, the tendency is written "3.September 1939" but the dot ain't spoken!

What is even more illogical is when one adds the day of the week . In English, it is Sunday, 3rd September 1939. If you say Sunday, September 3, this makes September Sunday! Even worse would be September Sunday 3.

I quote from a recent book on solecisms in English, written by an American:
dates In Britain, as in most of the world, an abbreviated date is written day-month-year, and so, to a Briton, 7/11/93 means '7 November 1993'. In the USA, such dates are traditionally written month-day-year, and so, to an American, 7/11/93 usually means 'July 11 1993'. The international form is now gaining ground in the USA, but is still far from established there. Meanwhile, if you are writing something that might be read on the other side of the Atlantic, it is best to avoid the abbreviated format altogether, and to write the date out in full. (Mind the Gaffe, R.L. Trask, 2001, ISBN 0-14-051476-7, p. 88)

If the "gaining ground" is as slow as the introduction of the metric system, maybe in 2203?

[Fred H]

This thread started with the good news about the MSPro PowerPatch II.
It is a nonsense to discus the “11/18”.
Month no. 18 doesn’t exist, so it must be November, month no. 11.
By the way, why “no.” for number? Why not “nr.”?

The international form is now gaining ground in the USA, but is still far from established there.

Maybe it will be accepted in the USE (United States of Europe) if the “Wood-heads” in Brussels or Bruxelles (A new storm starts here with how to spell it?) get it, as they will.

(I hope it will remain just a utopia…)

Fred H

[keithm]

I didn't mean to cause all this deliberation (?) all I wanted to know is when the patch was due!

[Brian Ellis]

Fred

It was an import from the French numéro

[Fred H]

Brian,
I have nothing against your post and your import.
Contrary, I agree with you, but I am not very glad for this new thought about the U.S.E. and all what it’ll contain. Sorry for the sarcasm.
My point is: be more flexible. It doesn’t matter if one says November 18, 11/18, 18.11 etc.
Important is to understand each other.
And just today, I can say: 11/11 without to hurt somebody.
Yes, today is 11th November, sorry November 11th.

Fred H

Edited: Discovered that this is the anniversary of my 500th post here in this Forum...

[Hulk]

I'm remember learning the metric system in grade school. My teachers were telling us in a few years this country would use the metric system like the rest of the world. That was almost 30 years ago.

The metric system is better, especially for science and engineering, but old habits die hard. Especially in the USA.

What's the mass of that book? Oh yeah, 8 slugs.

[Dr Mordrid]

I used the metric system every day because of my work in the medical field, but that doesn't mean I use it in my real life.

When I measure wood in my shop I use inches & feet.

When I cook I use ounces, cups & tablespoons, not cc's because the cookbooks are written that way...as are the family recipes (of which I have hundreds).

When I work on my car 90% of the tools and parts are in inches and fractional inches.

That said everything here is labeled in both systems, even the cars speedometer.

Just passing a law doesn't change how people think, and to be perfectly honest about it most Americans are perfectly happy being contrary to what the rest of the world does.

In fact one favorite admonission parents say to their children here is: "if everyone else jumps off a cliff does that mean you should too??"

Must be a first world thing

Dr. Mordrid