Mozilla 1.1 is out!

[Wombat]

Don't you need TweakUI installed to get that checkbox?

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by Wombat
Don't you need TweakUI installed to get that checkbox?

Not there either. (I just downloaded it and skimmed through it so I might have missed it)

[KeiFront]

sst don't tell anyone it's called Browse in New Process

[Wulfman]

mozilla 1.1 is not stable for me, already 3 crashes. back to 1.1 alpha, which is rock stable.

mfg
wulfman

[Greebe]

Not a single hiccup here yet

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by KeiFront
sst don't tell anyone it's called Browse in New Process

ARRRRGGG!

But where is the option? WHERE WHERE WHERE ???

I've looked every where for that option and I cannot find it!

I'm running WindBlows 98 SE (Stupid Edition) and InterWhore ExplorHER Six point Oh!

I know exactly what option your talking about and it actually exists for WinXP but it doesn't seem to be found anywhere in Win98.

[Wulfman]

Originally posted by Greebe
Not a single hiccup here yet

well, I just deleted the 1.1 directory. maybe I'll have more luck with a fresh win2k install I'll do next week.

mfg
wulfman

[Pace]

I don't know if it is in Win98 - it might not allow separate processes of it. Probably because Win98, Explorer and IE are all one big process I really hope that everyone who worked on Win98 have had a fair amount of training now that MS are onto XP etc. If WinMe is anything to go by, then WinXP will go downhill too

[Wombat]

It definitely allows it. I remember having it turned on, at least in SE. I don't have that installed anymore though, sorry.

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by Pace
I don't know if it is in Win98 - it might not allow separate processes of it. Probably because Win98, Explorer and IE are all one big process I really hope that everyone who worked on Win98 have had a fair amount of training now that MS are onto XP etc. If WinMe is anything to go by, then WinXP will go downhill too

Nope, Win98 doesn't allow seperate processes cause it sucks!

I spent hours looking everywhere and the only thing I can think of is hacking the registry to get that option.

It's supposed to be there in IE5.0 but I guess stupid MicroShaft decided to remove that option for IE6 for Win98.

Damn you MS, damn you to hell!!!!!!!

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by Wombat
It definitely allows it. I remember having it turned on, at least in SE. I don't have that installed anymore though, sorry.

In IE5, yes.
In IE6, no.

How disappointing is that?
They removed a perfectly good option!

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by leech


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I always hated Win98 for that, everytime IE would crash it'd reset the whole desktop. Usually you'd lose all the icons in the systray as well. Oh well, at least XP hasn't really done that a lot on me (mind you it still has, but not since I stopped using IE)

Leech

IE has never made my desktop reset. Usually If I have a ton of IE windows open it'll closes them all when just ONE crashes but that's it. THAT and THAT alone is what pisses me off. And it's THAT option (Browse in New Process) that is supposed to prevent all IE windows from closing when one IE windfows decides to screw up, and that's why I find it disappointing that they removed it in IE6. If I remeber correctly i think it did work ok when you have it checked in IE5. But now I'm stuck with IE6 and I can't go back.

And since I spend 8 hours a day at work making a living, and our main tool is IE running from Win98, AND also the fact that no other browser works is what really pisses me off. Our IT departement doesn't want and won't allow us to use anything else, I've used Mozuilla before and i like it way more than IE. But we can't use it. I've tried, I went behind their back and installed it even though I could get fired for using it at work yet it still does not work. So the fact that such an option exists and could potentially save me lots of time and headaches is removed from the most recent and proclaimed best browser (by MS) really disappoints me.

Still think it's the dumbess thing you've ever heard?

Look at it this way. When your stuck using crap that always fails and you HAVE to work with it, it can get annoying. For a multi Billion dollar company you'd think they would have better tools. It's nothing against you, so don't take it personally.

[RichL]

I tend to get the same problem even with Win2k - one IE session hangs, the whole lot hang and usually reload the desktop.
I did some scouting around after failing to find the aformentioned "Run in seperate process" option - according to Micro$oft IE5.5 or above will automatically run new windows in seperate processes if you have more than 32mb ram. Theres a registry key you can set manually to force the option. I checked mine and its set.
Good old Microsoft.

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by leech


Actually the dumbest thing I've ever heard is that where I work the IT department (from what I know it's just one guy) won't allow the supervisor's printer to be shared so that they don't have to install an extra printer that's JUST OUTSIDE her office for the computer there! Instead our person that does all the paperwork on the computer has to walk all the way down the hallway to print stuff out there or she has to email it to the supervisor's computer then print it out onto that. NOW THAT is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Taking out an option that is THAT valueable is the second dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I wasn't saying you were dumb for looking for it, I was saying Microsoft sucks monkey nuts for taking it out. That would be the most useful thing around. Hey, just try to convince them to let you install linux on your machine and you can use Mozilla/Galeon

Leech

Oh ok, I know what you mean now! Man do I have nack for misunderstanding things! LOL (as the light turns on! ) Sorry about that, I guess it was late when I posted that.

Yeah MS does suck monkey nuts!

[orangejulius]

Originally posted by leech
[B]IE ... isn't standards compliant. MS has to use their own extensions rather than conform to the W3C. For instance, if you want to have transparency in Mozilla, you just use

-moz-opacity: xx%

pretty simple, eh?
[/URL]

Yep. From a thread discussing <a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e6794024622f8c63">CSS3 support</a> in Moz:

Good thing about the -moz- prefix is that it is blatantly a
vendor-specific way of doing things. If webmasters choose to use it then
they know exactly what they are getting into. They may use the feature
if it makes their page look a bit cooler, but they probably won't rely
on it for anything vital.

Contrast this to the way that Internet Explorer often adds extensions to
the standards in a way that does not make it clear that they are
vendor-specific. Then we get 'web developers' coming here wingeing [sic] "my
page does does not work in your crappy browser - you must fix this." -Tim Hunt