Looking to buy some new computer speakers soon

[[Ch]amsalot]

Making my S4 Midiland 8200s (which, BTW, are *still* in the box from like, 2 years ago cause I'm too lazy to open them up and set them up and I'm fine with my MH-500s anyway) look damn antiquated.

The S4 Midiland 8200s v.2 got horrid reviews. I'm guessing my v.1 must be better I'll hook them up someday...


-[Ch]ams

[Greebe]

loss of image coherency due to the extra driver and additional phase shift added by having a passive crossover for the 641's satellites

[[Ch]amsalot]

Well there ya have it... if you want boom and loud get the Z560s.

I haven't heard the 641s. All reviews [except whatever Greebe just said] say they are excellent.

-[Ch]ams

[Greebe]

Speaker design is one on my Forte's, been doing it for over a couple of decades now


Actually you can modify the Z560's sub by either enlarging the cabinette a bit and or installing a variable bass port. Then you can make it sound either boomy/punchy or with a smooooooooth rolloff for classical

[bambam]

greebe, sorry I missed your statement on the 641s...thumbs up or down?


ps...to modify the 560s sub; complicated...or low tech and easy?

[K6-III]

Well, in that case, you could just build yourself a subwoofer....using perhaps a Shiva woofer and a sealed 54L cabinet....

[[Ch]amsalot]

Greebe,

You'd get along with my brother-in-law Jim down in FL, who makes his own speakers and does custom car-stereo installations.

He was recently on the local news down there when his wife discovered a 7' long crocodile under their car.

Jennifer Erskine was getting ready to head off to work when she noticed an alligator napping under her car.
She called police and a short time later a trapper came to the house, woke up the critter and wrestled it out from under the car.
After the protesting gator was tied and taped, the trapper took a measurement; almost seven feet long.
Husband Jimmy was awakened with the news.

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/WD...2/072402.5.htm (scroll to bottom).

I was LMAO when I heard that story. The only things I get under my car in NY are cats.

-[Ch]ams

[bambam]

LOL

[Greebe]

Sure that wasn't a gator?

It's low tech... a saw, some MDF (medium density Fiberboard), caulking and a variable bass port (can be bought at places like Madisound, Zalytron etc)

I'm not giving either a thumbs up or down... depends on your taste more than anything. I'm just speaking technically of the difference

[Grail]

Woah! My thread just ballooned out.

Thx a lot for the info and opinions.

Greebe, aren't the Monsoon MH-505's 4.1? http://www.monsoonpower.com/mh505.shtml
What would you recommend as an alternative to 641/MH-505/Z560's?

K6-III, thx for the heads up, I'll see what info I can get from him. Regaurding the Diva Swans, I dunno... I am really set on getting some 4.1/5.1 action going. Besides, when I really want to enjoy music, I just break out the headphones.

Chamsalot, my brother has the Z560's and I do like them, but their imaging leaves a little to be desired. Mainly due to their one size fits all type sattelites. Don't get me wrong, I really like them as a system, but not exactly what I am looking for. I like precise imaging and SQ (check my sig for the headphones I use ).

bambam, thx for the heads up on the 641's. They look very interesting. Definitely worth finding a demo set to listen to.

For everyone, I listen to just about anything musical these days(anything with a good rythym/beat). Even some country!

I *wish* I could get some Midiland action going as well. Was interested in the 7100m speakers for a while.

[bambam]

Grail...ATIC in Van has them 641s for $230 cnd. amazing price.

[Wombat]

Grail, you've just gotta pick something at this point. You're trying to spend $200 and get sound as good as $100 headphones. It's not going to happen. I have 5.1's for my computer, but it was only a $200 set, and I certainly don't expect them to sound anything like my Beyerdynamics, or my B&Ws in the living room.

[Grail]

That was a quick reply.

Thx for the info, but I already have some contacts to some of the computer stores. I can find their costs if I want.
I used to be in the computer sales biz and have heard some scary stuff about ATIC. I'll stick with my contacts for the time being.
I can probably get the speakers for 230 (maybe even less. ) through my normal contacts.

[Grail]

Daaamn... reply to one, then another appears!

Wombat, I wouldn't expect them to be better than my headphones. I just want the best imaging and SQ I can get for my budget that I can get locally. I wish I could get a HT setup, or one of the higher end setups from Videologic, Midiland, etc. Don't like being on a student budget (need to save up for some desktop publishing courses I want to take).

All I need to make a decision is to find a demo of the 641's and the Monsoon speakers. I already know the 560's quite well. I'll keep you guys posted on what I get. Thx again for the info and opinions.

[[Ch]amsalot]

Grail

EMS Computing has the best prices on the Z-560s and 641s.

$122 for the Logitechs

http://specs.emscomputing.com/cgi-bin/specs/specs.asp?pid=442827

$126 for the Altec Lansings:

http://specs.emscomputing.com/cgi-bin/specs/specs.asp?pid=808390

I *think* I had one transaction with this company and it went fine.

-[Ch]ams