The Shit has hit the FAN!

[leech]

Last I checked (granted I don't use the Creative lab software for this) but it has the ability to RIP MP3's for you and then compile a CD collection to BURN Them. 'course I could be wrong...

I have the Audigy 2 platinum, and I do believe that it is correct in saying it's only when playing DVD Audio (kind of like the macrovision crap.)

While on the Subject of the Audigy 2 and third party software. Anyone know of a third party mixer for it? Something with the control of the ALsa mixer?

Leech

[Gurm]

Leech: The kX project people are working on a good mixer, but I don't know of any completed, working ones off the top. Ask at 3D Sound Surge.

- Gurm

[Technoid]

Well, This is exactly Like the WPA case

Gurm said that:
It will never happen!

IT DID!

And despite hacks and other things it still regulary do rear its ugly head and destroyes my day

[Gurm]

Well, it did... and didn't.

Microsoft DID put WPA in Windows XP. They have since softened their stance on it tremendously, and made it less irritating (although it still does irk systems repair types).

Every OTHER company that has done activation of this type has abandoned it entirely after seeing how terrible it turned out to be.

Intuit has publicly apologized to its customers, promising to never do activation again, and begging them not to jump ship to H&R Block.

And they've gone back to activation-less keyed versions of their software in the 2003 versions. My Office 2003 never once asked to talk to the mothership.

I predict that we WILL see devices that offer DRM. But they will ALSO play regular non-encrypted files just fine. And frankly, that's how it is NOW. My DVD player plays encrypted originals, AND unencrypted backups.

The thing that I predict will NOT happen is we WON'T see any home PC's anytime soon that refuse to let you run TMPGEnc to make your own MPEG files. I just don't see how it's technically possible. Do you? If you do, please explain it to the rest of us, because I'm really puzzled. How do you propose to prevent TMPGEnc and CopyToDVD from running?

- Gurm

[Wulfman]

gurm, you HAVE read the next generation secure computing specs, have you?

user wants to start program, OS connects to central server, checks, program not listed ... busted.

[software can be declared illegal, happened to clone cd over here. soon they are only enforcing the law. you don't want to use DRM? do you have something to hide?]

mfg
wulfman

[Technoid]

Simple;
Same way you can't use non signed drivers in XP

Yes, i know its perfectly posible to by pass it, but imagine that it wasnt possible

MS has hinted at making it like that in Longhorn

And don't say that none will buy it

Since every brandname computer will have it, and to the user when he starts his new Dell or HP nothing out of the ordinary will happen when he installs software since all big software houses will also be signed,

its just that old programs and unsigned programs won't run

Sure, there is nothing preventing you from installing old XP on the Dell, but then it won't run signed software

And in reallity what we few computer geek thinks is small compared to the big masses of Joe Do('h)e that buys Dell and don't care, and those Joe Doe that do care is only one in a 100

Ms is actualy in the monopoly situation where they can verry well do whatever they want

And if your new copy of Office 2003 dont phone home at all then the question IS:
Where did you get it?
Did you buy it in a store like us mere mortals?

[Gurm]

Yup. It sure is a store-bought copy. My key, however, is a nice gift from Microsoft. My point here being that in Windows XP's version of WPA, there were NO activation-less keys. People who have activation-less WinXP have pirated the corporate version. Office 2003 is less intrusive. I'm willing to bet Longhorn will be as well. In fact, I haven't looked at the activation on Server2003. Is there any?

And as for signing programs - you seriously think that the next iteration of the operating system will require programs to be signed to run? How do you propose that individual or small developers even WRITE code, then? Will there be a special developer's version of the operating system that runs unsigned code for testing?

THINK before you suggest something foolish, man. How many software publishers are there in the world? 100,000? Probably more. Now how many of them even have a verisign certificate? Less than 1%. Are you honestly suggesting that the "government" will knowingly and willingly put 99% of businesses (most of which are based in the United States) out of business permanently? I think you don't really understand capitalism if you believe that.

Microsoft is a BUSINESS. It's not good for business to cripple the United States economy.

- Gurm

[Technoid]

Originally posted by Gurm
Well, it did... and didn't.

Microsoft DID put WPA in Windows XP. They have since softened their stance on it tremendously, and made it less irritating (although it still does irk systems repair types).

Every OTHER company that has done activation of this type has abandoned it entirely after seeing how terrible it turned out to be.

Intuit has publicly apologized to its customers, promising to never do activation again, and begging them not to jump ship to H&R Block.

And they've gone back to activation-less keyed versions of their software in the 2003 versions. My Office 2003 never once asked to talk to the mothership.

I predict that we WILL see devices that offer DRM. But they will ALSO play regular non-encrypted files just fine. And frankly, that's how it is NOW. My DVD player plays encrypted originals, AND unencrypted backups.

The thing that I predict will NOT happen is we WON'T see any home PC's anytime soon that refuse to let you run TMPGEnc to make your own MPEG files. I just don't see how it's technically possible. Do you? If you do, please explain it to the rest of us, because I'm really puzzled. How do you propose to prevent TMPGEnc and CopyToDVD from running?

- Gurm

Gurm, I only answered your question
It's not likely that they'll do it, but THEY CAN!

and since When do MS care about other software makers?

[Gurm]

MS cares a LOT about other software makers. Despite the whole "they're an evil empire" thing, they realize that 99% of software in the world is NOT made by them.

- Gurm

[Wulfman]

Originally posted by Gurm
Despite the whole "they're an evil empire" thing, they realize that 99% of software in the world is NOT made by them.
- Gurm

I guess they are highly bothered by this fact.

mfg
wulfman

[Gurm]

Oh, I would imagine so. But aware, nonetheless.

- Gurm

[tonny]

activation has changed in windows at least. for example, without SP1, if you change more than the allowed number of components (4 points) you have to activate immediately. if you have SP1, you will have 3 days grace period to do this (which is a great thing since i usually do upgrades in the week-ends).

there is activation in server 2003 also, and it's mostly the same as windows xp, you can't log on to it, but all services start without pb and you can access it from the network

[Byock]

Exactly, Server 2003 is just as bad as XP, when it comes to activation.

[Admiral]

It's quite ironic when you end up using cracks on your legit copies.