So D3 is crushing my R9200...

[daemorok]

as far as i know XT is just an overclocked pro card... 95% sure

[Tjalfe]

seems that mwave has the Radeon 9700 PRO's in stock.. refurbs, but at a higher price

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/PRODREFURB-VG.hmx?Updepts=Blowrefurb.hmx&Dname=BLOW%20OUT%20SALES

AA18510 ATI RADEON 9700 PRO 128MB AGP 8X DDR (OEM - POWERED BY ATI)*Refurbished with 30-day warranty Details $158.00 YES

( mwave..me thinks back to the days of the mwave modem/sound card.. quite possibly the worst piece of hardware I ever had to work with *shudders* )

[Wombat]

A new retail 9700 Pro should be $200 or less, if you can still find them.

[Wombat]

Originally posted by daemorok
as far as i know XT is just an overclocked pro card... 95% sure

Self-overclocked.

[Kooldino]

Originally posted by tjalfe
should be a fair bit faster than a 9600XT and it does indeed have DVI

not doom3, I know, but the latest Carmac engine from before.. 201.5 fps versus 164.1


edit: seems they are out of stock, so nevermind that one, unless you want to wait for them to get more in...

Sorry, I meant DV, as in VIVO.

[Kooldino]

Originally posted by Wombat
Self-overclocked.

As in, it overclocks itself? based on what? heat?

[Belwarrior]

i think they meant it is just a factory overclocked 9600pro.. actually since you are looking for a VIVO card.. Giga-byte had a VIVO card based on 9600pro not sure it is still around

if possible for your prize range, a 9600pro 256mb would not be too bad.

[Greebe]

I'm kinda confused... why not spend $300 or more on a good card? You spent thousands on a ricer engine upgrade. Just like PC's, they depreciate the same.

[JTD]

Originally posted by Kooldino
As in, it overclocks itself? based on what? heat?

Yep....it's overclocked via the drivers.
My 9600XT is currently running at 513MHz (norm. 500MHz) and at a temp. of 53C. May seem hot, but it is passively cooled, so I am happy with that.

So, my very first post (only took a few years....)

[Kooldino]

Originally posted by Greebe
I'm kinda confused... why not spend $300 or more on a good card?

1-I barely game.

2-it will be worthless in no time.

3-I don't have much money at the moment.

You spent thousands on a ricer engine upgrade.

Ricers don't know how to upgrade engines.

Just like PC's, they depreciate the same.

Not true. I can sell my motor for close to what I paid for it. a $300 video card will be worth $100 used in a year.

[Jon P. Inghram]

If cars were like video cards they'd come out with new and improved fuels every few months that put out 20% more horsepower, 20% better mileage, and 20% fewer emissions, but only if you run them in a new upgraded engine design that is also released every few months. And in the end it would rarely make any difference because the automotive designers would become more lazy due to the extra performance and make everything terribly inefficient.

[The PIT]

I think you mean engines not fuel we don't buy fuel directly from ford etc.
Also theres politics that play a lot in the old petrol engine.
Left to design it's l wouldn't be surprised if we were driving cars that could do 100 around town today.

As for Doom3 perhaps ATI should have slept with John C as much as Nvidea did.

[Marshmallowman]

Carmac has always done it the NV way...which is fair enough , becuse he likes linux and so does nvidia

[Chrono_Wanderer]

but he's anti-patent

anyways, did you guys read the latest news?

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17702

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17619

NV43 is coming. i think Kooldino can afford them

It will get around 8000 3dmarks (yes i know its 3dmark, but isn't it a good first indication of how good it is?) looks pretty good to me (i think it will cost around the same as the 5600s)