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  • #16
    Originally posted by xortam
    I had read this morning that the interest was in lower powered Intel CPUs for mobile Apple platforms.
    That's the speculation, and it's based on the fact that IBM has been unable to produce a G5 processor capable of being used in the Powerbook and iBook lines.
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    • #17
      In which case, maybe an X-scale? Something non-x86. After all, Apple's already working on iTunes for phones.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jesterzwild
        That's the speculation, and it's based on the fact that IBM has been unable to produce a G5 processor capable of being used in the Powerbook and iBook lines.
        so what cpu to Powerbooks use? G4 gen, or something else?
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        • #19
          G4 currently
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Wombat
            In which case, maybe an X-scale? Something non-x86. After all, Apple's already working on iTunes for phones.
            There have also been rumors that Apple is working on a PDA type device, in which case you can't beat an Xscale. That makes a lot more sense that an x86 processor for their computers. Maybe they'll resurrect the Newton
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jammrock
              There have also been rumors that Apple is working on a PDA type device, in which case you can't beat an Xscale. That makes a lot more sense that an x86 processor for their computers. Maybe they'll resurrect the Newton
              I have an IPAQ with an XScale CPU and it sucks the big one!

              It doesn't do floating point math natively and there's even lots of known CPU bugs. I'm not talking about obscure op codes either. I used to be an active member of the HP PDA dev program but I gave up because the support all around was so terrible. I remember that a breakout clone game I used to play played very differently on two IPAQs that I had (even though they were the same CPU) because there was a stepping difference and the math for the bounce angle and velocity was being calculated differently!
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              • #22
                have any of you considered the intel Vanderpool technology as a posiblity for these talks?
                "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SpiralDragon
                  have any of you considered the intel Vanderpool technology as a posiblity for these talks?
                  In an interview with ZDNet, Intel CEO Craig Barrett floats the possibility of using upcoming technology known as Vanderpool to run multiple operating...


                  could be...
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                  • #24
                    OH the HORROR!!!!!

                    ... ROTFLMAOtm!!!! ...
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ALBPM
                      OH the HORROR!!!!! ...
                      No Damn Answers !!!tm...tm courtesy of xortam
                      Oh come on Schultzy!

                      "I know nuthink!"

                      Last edited by xortam; 24 May 2005, 11:48.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Wombat
                        I strongly disagree. Apple is a hardware company first. They produce software to support their hardware. If they went x86, then they'd lost their hardware lock-in.
                        But against that they can sell more Macs to a wider audience who don't like being locked in.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Wombat
                          I strongly disagree. Apple is a hardware company first. They produce software to support their hardware. If they went x86, then they'd lost their hardware lock-in.
                          This is mostly true. I remember this being discussed at an Apple developers conference in the mid-80s. They wanted to lock the O/S to their HW platform and didn't want to simply be selling commodity SW.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by The PIT
                            But against that they can sell more Macs to a wider audience who don't like being locked in.
                            Which would totally work against them.

                            One of the best things about Macs is that Macs work. The primary reason that they work is because Apple has strict control of what hardware you will run their software on. Hardware incompatibilities, tolerances, all that stuff that the PC crowd has to put up with. Apple is free of that. Going to open hardware like the PC market would ruin them.
                            Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Wombat
                              Which would totally work against them.

                              One of the best things about Macs is that Macs work. The primary reason that they work is because Apple has strict control of what hardware you will run their software on. Hardware incompatibilities, tolerances, all that stuff that the PC crowd has to put up with. Apple is free of that. Going to open hardware like the PC market would ruin them.
                              One of the worst things about Macs is the price of stuff becuase it's locked market and yes they do fail. Built in redunancy. Heck I need more space on my hard rive. Shit I can't upgrade it.

                              Besides how often do you see intolerances in the PC market today. It's now fairly rare as the market has matured a lot.
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                              • #30
                                It's either just sabre-rattling to get a better deal, the mobile thing (hadn't thought about that), or some PDA (yay!). There already is an x86 port for OSX, like there was for every recent MacOS.

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