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  • ULi M1695 - The next SiS 735?

    I think I just spotted my next upgrade. I have a XP Tbred that have served me well for the past 2,5 years, and it´s actually nice to see how it still delivers actual performance on a A7N8X-X @ 2200Mhz on a 200Mhz Bus/ 1Gb DDR 400. At least it still keeps an oc´ed X800pro well fed

    I resisted the urge to get a Athlon 64, but now with the clarified socket issues, WinXP64 out and Win "vista" next year, a good upgrade path - 939 and X2 processors, and reasonable priced Athlon64 "venice", one issue remained: AGP vs PCIe. Buying a S939 AGP motherboard meaning you blocking the video card upgrade, buying a PCIe meaning you´d have to get a PCIe card, and I think my X800pro will last for some time (if it doesn´t end dying on me... )
    SLI simply doesn´t interest me, brute force just isn´t the way.

    So, finally I saw several reviews for a very smart chipset - the ULi (former ALi) M1695. Fast, cheap, troubleless, and with a very elegant solution - native AGP8x on the southbridge, with a hypertransport link to northbridge. Motherboards with both native PCIe and AGP, both top performers.
    Here´s some reviews:




    Now, fast, cheap, troubleless, and elegant solution, that remembers me of SiS 735, a killer athlon chipset at its time, and later SiS 746/FX that virtually falled into oblivion because only a few budget motherboad manufacturers went with it.

    For now, I spotted Asrock making the 939Dual-Sata2, and maybe this board is the one I´m getting. I´ve already had Asrock K7S8X that served me well, and still works on my sister-in-law PC - very robust and stable, simply lacked basic overclocking functions.

    I´m hoping getting one of these plus a Athlon64 3200+ venice for around 250€.

    But once again I fear a relative small manufacturer well done chipset will not be widly adopted because of the big-boys (VIA, Nvidia) pressure. I will surely support it.

  • #2
    I already made my order last Saturday. The package should arrive in a week or two.

    - ASRock 939Dual-SATA2
    - Athlon64 +3500 Venice
    - Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS

    I decided to buy Audigy 2 ZS, because the motherboard itself doesn't have either FireWire (IEEE-1394), nor SPDIF out.

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    • #3
      Yes, I´ll be using my Audigy 1 for sound and firewire too.

      I suspect this board will become a good seller... How much was yours?

      I still haven´t found them for sale here in Portugal, but it shouldn´t take too long. There´s plenty of stores selling asrock around here.

      Please share your opinion when you get the board!

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      • #4
        It's 63-77€ here in Finland, but none of the stores actually have it right now. However, they're all expecting to have it in a stock before the end of this week.

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        • #5
          The links Nuno gave in his first post, are actually the reviews of new Uli M1695 chipset (with reference board).
          Here is the review of "ASRock 939Dual-SATA2" motherboard:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mikko
            It's 63-77€ here in Finland, but none of the stores actually have it right now. However, they're all expecting to have it in a stock before the end of this week.
            Now that´s a nice price

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            • #7
              Yep, it's very cheap considering that ASUS A8V Deluxe (VIA K8T800Pro + AGP8x) or Asus A8N-E (NForce4 + PCIe x16) cost more than 90€ here, for example.

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              • #8
                Definitly Asrock motherboards always had spectacular prices for what they offer.

                2 years ago my K7S8X was like 50€, a fully featured Socket A (3 DIMMS, 6 PCI, 5.1 sound, LAN, ATA 133, 4 USB ports), that was maybe the best price/quality/features/performance piece of hardware I bough on my life. Heck, it paid out the 50€ only for the sound and LAN

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                • #9
                  I went ahead and filled out Newegg's Shall We Carry form for this board. So, if anyone else in the US wants to, go ahead and fill out Newegg's form. Mabye they'll carry it.
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                  • #10
                    Just a word of advice on what you should expect:

                    The ocworkbench review was made with a preproduction bios. The boards currently shipping have no overclocking abilities whatsoever.


                    Explanation was that it was found a serious bug in 1.00 bios, and they are actually correcting it. Meanwhile, asrock was kind enough to e-mail a beta bios to a user that contacted tech support about the motherboard not having the features described on the manual. (nice attitude, BTW)



                    There´s also some kind of confidential bios the admin at ocworkbench is using with bood results, but that´s unwilling to share by now.
                    Last edited by Nuno; 18 August 2005, 11:24.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for update, Nuno.

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                      • #12
                        I updated the 1.15 bios link, that rar file appears to be corrupted.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nuno
                          I´m hoping getting one of these plus a Athlon64 3200+ venice for around 250€.
                          I hope they are not THAT expensive in Portugal.
                          Here in Germany the price starts at 150 EUR. A "normal" price seems to be around 165 EUR for the Athlon 64 3200+ "Venice".
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                          • #14
                            Just to let you know:

                            An upgrade went just fine and the new motherboard works brilliantly without any problems. I'm still trying to find the best O/C settings (performance vs. stability) for Parhelia and for the new CPU, but that's another story (and will require a lot of time and testing). I'm very happy at the moment.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mikko
                              Just to let you know:

                              An upgrade went just fine and the new motherboard works brilliantly without any problems. I'm still trying to find the best O/C settings (performance vs. stability) for Parhelia and for the new CPU, but that's another story (and will require a lot of time and testing). I'm very happy at the moment.
                              So, how it went?

                              There´s another catch with this board. Max Vcore varies with the CPU used. For FX is 1.55v, for 64´s 1.45 and for X2... 1.35. Not good.

                              oh, well, nothing´s perfect. I´m still expecting these to show up in Portugal to make up my mind. If they´re around 70€, well, you really can´t expect much more than a stable board.

                              Unfortunately, there´s still a lack of motherboards with this brilliant chipset. That´s a bit stange, as Abit, Asus, Albatron, Chaintec, DFI, Gigabyte, Jetway, already have motherboards with ULI M1689 chipset.

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