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  • #16
    My next monitor will be one of those LED tft's, i'm holding out for that
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    • #17
      My MSI Wind is LED backlight, excellent color and excellent viewing angles.
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      • #18
        WTF is a TN?

        I recently picked up a 24" Samsung LCD for $290 or so after rebate.

        It's a decent monitor, but I'm not in love. The reds are overly bright and are somewhat pinkish, an the viewing angle leaves a little to be desired.

        Aside from that, it has a swivel stand and an adjustible height base, etc.

        I'll rock it for a couple of years or until I can get a nicer monitor for $250.

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        • #19
          TN = Twisted Nematic

          Its an older lcd technology that is very cheap, so the glass manufacturers are using that in cheap high volume panels. They have fast response time, but poor viewing angle and color shift/inversion when not viewed directly in front.

          The problem with a widescreen TN monitor is that it is large enough that you can see some viewing angle problems along the edges even when sitting right in front of it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rylan View Post
            TN = Twisted Nematic

            The problem with a widescreen TN monitor is that it is large enough that you can see some viewing angle problems along the edges even when sitting right in front of it.
            Yes, especially when you're sitting quite close to the screen. Another problem that is more obvious on TN panel based TFTs is the backlight bleeding (the backlight can pass a TN panel easier compared to *VA or IPS panels).
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            • #21
              Originally posted by rylan View Post
              TN = Twisted Nematic

              Its an older lcd technology that is very cheap, so the glass manufacturers are using that in cheap high volume panels. They have fast response time, but poor viewing angle and color shift/inversion when not viewed directly in front.
              Sounds exactly like my 24" Samsung! lol.

              The problem with a widescreen TN monitor is that it is large enough that you can see some viewing angle problems along the edges even when sitting right in front of it.
              I kind of can, but I have to focus on it. However, if I'm 30* off of the center of the monitor, i start losing color and contrast fast.

              When purchasing an LCD online, what's the easiest way to tell if it's TN or not?

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              • #22
                One way to find out is having a look at the viewing angle. TN: between 160 and 170°, S-PVA / S-IPS: usually 178°.

                The price also tells a lot about the panel. A 24" TFT with S-PVA or S-IPS panel usually costs at least 500 EUR (at least these days here in Germany).

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                • #23
                  Another is looking it up on prad.de and checking the type of panel in specifications. Although for some OEM monitors, the panel can vary.

                  Otherwise, Lenovo L220x is 22", WUXGA and MVA and costs about 360 Euros.

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                  • #24
                    As I've mentioned on here before I got a DGM 24" panel for only £200, maybe 6 months ago. It has a basic feature set, but image quality is on par with my Dell 2407, and it is a PVA panel. A genuine bargain.
                    FT.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lambo-Fan View Post
                      One way to find out is having a look at the viewing angle. TN: between 160 and 170°, S-PVA / S-IPS: usually 178°.
                      Yep, I definitely have a TN then.

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                      • #26
                        You mentioned your screen tends to run a bit red. Have you calibrated it yet? The Samsung I used to have (sold to Gurm when I bought my first Dell widescreen) tended to run towards blue. Samsung's Magictun works pretty well for this: Link.

                        I wish I could afford a Spyder or Eye One to calibrate my screens/printers/scanners but sadly I've never been able to justify the cost. However, I've had a lot of luck with Nvidia's built in calibration wizard in their control panel. My two Dell's look significantly different until I run it.

                        Other options are:
                        http://www.displaycalibration.com/br..._contrast.html
                        http://www.monitorsetup.com/

                        I've used others but not having much google luck this morning.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Claymonkey View Post
                          You mentioned your screen tends to run a bit red. Have you calibrated it yet? The Samsung I used to have (sold to Gurm when I bought my first Dell widescreen) tended to run towards blue. Samsung's Magictun works pretty well for this: Link.

                          I wish I could afford a Spyder or Eye One to calibrate my screens/printers/scanners but sadly I've never been able to justify the cost. However, I've had a lot of luck with Nvidia's built in calibration wizard in their control panel. My two Dell's look significantly different until I run it.

                          Other options are:
                          http://www.displaycalibration.com/br..._contrast.html
                          http://www.monitorsetup.com/

                          I've used others but not having much google luck this morning.

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                          Looks like there's no linux version of this software (I run kubuntu). :-/

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                          • #28
                            If you can make a .icm file in Windows using any of those programs you can use xcalib to enable it in X.

                            http://xcalib.sourceforge.net/
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