3DMark99: G400MAX@150/200 vs. G400MAX@170/227

[Scytale]

Armyworm is nominee for the best post of this week, I think

SCompRacer, P3's are faster because in general they are running at higher clockspeeds (like 4.5x124=558, and better). By itself there's not much of a difference. If you compare Yop's P3 450 scores to my P2 448 scores you see what I mean.

Spider, Old drivers suck, old utilities suck. This thread wouldn't be without a working version of PowerStrip.

[Kookstick]

Spider- Hi, the texture filtering and pixel are n/a unless I purchase the pro version which I might need to do, but otherwise the marks looked about right? Thanks

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ASUS P2B(1010),P3 450,G400 vanilla DH,ASUS 50X,128mb PC100,Mitsumi CDR,Iomega Zip,IBM 10 HDD,SB Live,Win98

[Buuri]

Please, feel encouraged to send those results to the original database held by Futuremark (<a href="http://www.3dmark.com">3DMark</a>). They will serve their purpose there long after this thread is gone.

Thank you.

B

[Maniac]

Hi ScompRacer,

3Dmark Max makes full use of the P3's new multimedia extensions which means you're going to see a rather hefty performance increase with it. The only other game I know of, which will support SSE instructions is Q3arena. However for $200US you will be getting a raw increase in clock speed as the P3-450 will do 558 without to much difficulty, so long as you have RAM that is stable at 124fsb...

[Guyver]

Anyone want to lend me their G400Max for a short bench in a 133Mhz FSB system? It shouldn't come back as a Mystique G200 Honest!

( I thought not! - Oh well worth a try, wasn't it? )

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Running an ABIT BE6, PIII-450 @ 600Mhz, 128MB (128x1) PC133HSDRAM (running @ 133), Matrox Mystique G200 8MB, SBLive! Full Retail, Adaptec AHA-2940UW (Dual Channel)
All kinds of other SCSI and ATAPI goodies....
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Waiting for my G400Max Very Impatiently, Having already maxed system performance to give it a good home.....

[Maggi]

back on top ... fukking DF31 & loserants

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Cheerio,
Maggi

Asus P2B-S @ 112MHz FSB - Bios 1009 final
Celeron300A @ 504Mhz
128MB 7ns SDRAM
G400 DualHead 32MB SGRAM @ 201 MHz memory clock

[SCompRacer1]

Thanks, Maniac

Unfortunately my FSB is limited to 112,</a> a MB limitation of my ASUS P2B-LS. Went there with the P II 400 though and 3D Mark 99 MAX went down.</a> Been told I gotta O/C the G400 too to get results.

Got a show this weekend, but my supplier told me P III's won't go down till Aug 24th.

But, are you ready for this, got $177.50 for my Dual Monster 3D VooDoo II cards, so getting closer to that P III 500. </a>

SCompRacer
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P II 400, ASUS P2B-LS, 256MB ECC RAM, ECC disabled in BIOS, dual 9GB Cheetahs, SCSI Insider ZIP, Plextor Ultraplex/Plexwriter CD R, Hitachi IDE DVD CD ROM, G400 16MB OEM (WAITING for MAX), Sigma Hollywood + DVD decoder card, SB Live, APC Back Ups Pro, NSpire 300 Watt PS, and fans everywhere.

[Guyver]

SCompRacer1,

I'm not positive about this, but I think your marks may have gone down when you tried 112FSB because your divisor may have changed for either the PCI or AGP bus. It may have dropped the frequency below spec.

On mine I have control of the divisors so my 133FSB gives me 33.336 PCI, 89 AGP.

I'm not certain how your motherboard handles the divisors. (Anybody out there know how this board does this?)


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Running an ABIT BE6, PIII-450 @ 600Mhz, 128MB (128x1) PC133HSDRAM (running @ 133), Matrox Mystique G200 8MB, SBLive! Full Retail, Adaptec AHA-2940UW (Dual Channel)
All kinds of other SCSI and ATAPI goodies....
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Waiting for my G400Max Very Impatiently, Having already maxed system performance to give it a good home.....

[Ozymandis]

I saw someone mentioning games that will take advantage of Pentium 3... well all retail G400 owners have one... Expendable! I have seen that SSE can give a large increase in Expendable timedemos so if anyone wants to run one, preferably at 1024x768 and 32-bit color, that would cool.

[SCompRacer1]

Guyver,

I am not clear as to what a 'divisor' is.

All I have on my ASUS P2B-LS is jumpers for the CPU core bus freq., which my P II 400 will only allow a 4.0 multiplier to boot at all, and the CPU bus freq.

Any other jumpers are for features, like keyboard on, disable onboard SCSI/LAN.

Some one told me I have to O/C the G400 as well, or try it at 103 FSB, which is the only other option above 100 I have. I was also advised to leave it for a few days and then test it.

So much to learn...

SCompRacer

[Spider]

Hi ! there..!

As I said...I tested the new version of POWERSTRIP & Im impresst...

The results are similar to MGATWEAK results & they realy fixed some bugs

1. MEM/GCLK values are calculated correctly now
2.AGP works fine when useing O/C( before..if useing O/C performance slider , AGP doesnt work exact & all benchm. crashed)
3 general performace lost when O/C is fixed now..

after useing Pstrip I made several test runs with MGATWEAK to see if the rsults will be same as befor...& it was...

I notice only one difference when O/c
with Pstrip in FinalReality...that is 2D BUS TRANSFERE RATE which is much LOWER as when I use MGATWEAK look here :

Database Entry <G400+MGATWEAK@gclk150 VsyncOFF2run>

Benchmark results:
Radial blur, 5N, 47.91, rips, 6.627, Rmark
Chaos zoomer, 5N, 76.29, rips, 3.707, Rmark
25 Pixel, 5N, 418.97, kpps, 13.390, Rmark
Robots, 5N, 56.66, rips, 14.680, Rmark
Fillrate, 5N, 203.17, MPps, 43.977, Rmark
City scene, 5N, 78.24, rips, 19.415, Rmark
Video card bus transfer, 5N, 178.19, MBps, 5.673, Rmark
Direct3D bus transfer, 5N, 177.18, MBps, 15.143, Rmark
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Visual appearance, 100.00, percent
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Overall 3D, 5.167, Rmark
Overall 2D, 5.167, Rmark 181,17 Mbytes/S
Overall bus rate, 8.514, Rmark
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OVERALL SCORE, 5.669, Rmark
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& now with PSTRIP

Database Entry <G400+Pstrip@gclk150 VsyncOFF>

Benchmark results:
Radial blur, 5N, 47.83, rips, 6.616, Rmark
Chaos zoomer, 5N, 76.31, rips, 3.708, Rmark
25 Pixel, 5N, 420.21, kpps, 13.430, Rmark
Robots, 5N, 56.53, rips, 14.645, Rmark
Fillrate, 5N, 203.64, MPps, 44.077, Rmark
City scene, 5N, 78.34, rips, 19.439, Rmark
Video card bus transfer, 5N, 56.04, MBps, 1.784, Rmark
Direct3D bus transfer, 5N, 175.75, MBps, 15.021, Rmark
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Visual appearance, 100.00, percent
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Overall 3D, 5.168, Rmark
Overall 2D, 5.162, Rmark 56.04 Mbytes/S
Overall bus rate, 5.755, Rmark
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OVERALL SCORE, 5.255, Rmark
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3670550493

so OVERALL :

MGATWEAK = 5.669

Pstrip2.51.07=5.255

In 3Dmark 99 MAX pro :

MGATWEAK :
DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 1999.08.16
Time: 17:48:45
Project Name:G400 @ G400MAX128x1024X32
Comments:
Matrox Mill G400 SH

O/C via MGATWEAK beta 009

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (Matrox Millennium G400 - English)
Resolution: 1280*1024
Color Depth: 32-bit Color
CPU Optimization: Intel(r) Pentium(r) III
Z-Buffer: 32-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 32-bit, 8888 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Hidden

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 3.041 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 7.134 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 1.632 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 28,3 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 32,8 FPS
Fill Rate : 158,5 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 188,6 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 136,8 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 101,0 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 86,1 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 42,2 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 25,2 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 32,3 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 46,6 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 95,5 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: 116,6 %
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 100,0 %
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 79,2 %
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: Not Supported
6 Pixel/individual: 1.987,0 KPolygons/s
6 Pixel/strips: 3.405,5 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/individual: 1.155,9 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/strips: 1.189,3 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/individual: 790,0 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/strips: 809,4 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/individual: 291,9 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/strips: 302,3 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/individual: 100,4 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/strips: 103,3 KPolygons/s

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4 A , Build 2222
DirectX Version: 4.06.03.0518
Bios Version: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Bios Date: 07/16/99
Total Physical Memory: 128 MB
Free Physical Memory: 14 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Intel Pentium III
Processor Speed: 466 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX SSE
L1 Cache Size: 32 KB
L2 Cache Size: 512 KB

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: Matrox Millennium G400 - English
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 7-16-1999
Monitor Name: ADI MicroScan 4P/4P+
Monitor Driver Date: 8-28-1998
Desktop Resolution: 1024*768
Desktop Color Depth: 16-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: Matrox Millennium G400 - English
Driver Name: G400DD32.DLL
Driver Version: 4.11.01.1130
Total Video Memory On Card: 32.698 KB
Total Texture Memory: 85.434 KB
Bus: AGP

Supported Features:
16-bit Rendering
32-bit Rendering
Point Sampling
Point Sampling With Mip-Mapping
Bilinear Filtering
Bilinear Filtering With Mip-Mapping
Trilinear Filtering
Specular Gouraud Shading
Vertex Fox
Table Fog
W-Fog
Sub-Pixel Accuracy
Alpha Blending
Addivitive Alpha Blending
Multiplicative Alpha Blending
Vertex Alpha Blending
Vertex And Texture Alpha Blending

Supported 3D Display Modes:
320*200, 16bit color
320*240, 16bit color
320*400, 16bit color
400*300, 16bit color
512*384, 16bit color
640*400, 16bit color
640*480, 16bit color
800*600, 16bit color
1024*768, 16bit color
1152*864, 16bit color
1280*1024, 16bit color
320*200, 32bit color
320*240, 32bit color
320*400, 32bit color
400*300, 32bit color
512*384, 32bit color
640*400, 32bit color
640*480, 32bit color
800*600, 32bit color
1024*768, 32bit color
1152*864, 32bit color
1280*1024, 32bit color

Supported Texture Formats:
16-bit, 565 RGB
16-bit, 4444 RGBA
16-bit, 5551 RGBA
15-bit, 555 RGB
32-bit, 8888 RGBA
24-bit, 888 RGB

& POWERSTRIP 2.51.07:

3DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 1999.08.18
Time: 08:48:45
Project Name:G400+Pstrip@gclk150 VsyncON
Comments: Matrox MILL-G400 32 SH

O/C via Pstrip251.07

MEMCLK=200,3
GCLK=150,2
Vsync ON

Monitor RefrshRate 65hz@15inch
"TEST RUNS STABLE"


Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (Matrox Millennium G400 - English)
Resolution: 1280*1024
Color Depth: 32-bit Color
CPU Optimization: Intel(r) Pentium(r) III
Z-Buffer: 32-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 32-bit, 8888 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 3.042 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 7.339 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 1.634 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 28,3 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 32,9 FPS
Fill Rate : 158,6 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 188,9 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 136,9 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 101,1 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 86,2 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 42,3 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 25,2 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 32,3 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 46,7 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 96,0 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: 116,6 %
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 100,0 %
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 79,2 %
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: Not Supported
6 Pixel/individual: 1.963,5 KPolygons/s
6 Pixel/strips: 3.412,0 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/individual: 1.159,4 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/strips: 1.192,0 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/individual: 793,2 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/strips: 812,5 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/individual: 291,9 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/strips: 301,9 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/individual: 99,9 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/strips: 102,7 KPolygons/s

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4 A , Build 2222
DirectX Version: 4.06.03.0518
Bios Version: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Bios Date: 07/16/99
Total Physical Memory: 128 MB
Free Physical Memory: 39 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Intel Pentium III
Processor Speed: 466 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX SSE
L1 Cache Size: 32 KB
L2 Cache Size: 512 KB

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: Matrox Millennium G400 - English
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 7-16-1999
Monitor Name: MicroScan 4P/4P+ (PS)
Monitor Driver Date: 4-23-1999
Desktop Resolution: 1024*768
Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: Matrox Millennium G400 - English
Driver Name: G400DD32.DLL
Driver Version: 4.11.01.1130
Total Video Memory On Card: 32.697 KB
Total Texture Memory: 83.897 KB
Bus: AGP

Supported Features:
16-bit Rendering
32-bit Rendering
Point Sampling
Point Sampling With Mip-Mapping
Bilinear Filtering
Bilinear Filtering With Mip-Mapping
Trilinear Filtering
Specular Gouraud Shading
Vertex Fox
Table Fog
W-Fog
Sub-Pixel Accuracy
Alpha Blending
Addivitive Alpha Blending
Multiplicative Alpha Blending
Vertex Alpha Blending
Vertex And Texture Alpha Blending

Supported 3D Display Modes:
320*200, 16bit color
320*240, 16bit color
320*400, 16bit color
400*300, 16bit color
512*384, 16bit color
640*400, 16bit color
640*480, 16bit color
800*600, 16bit color
1024*768, 16bit color
1152*864, 16bit color
1280*1024, 16bit color
320*200, 32bit color
320*240, 32bit color
320*400, 32bit color
400*300, 32bit color
512*384, 32bit color
640*400, 32bit color
640*480, 32bit color
800*600, 32bit color
1024*768, 32bit color
1152*864, 32bit color
1280*1024, 32bit color

Supported Texture Formats:
16-bit, 565 RGB
16-bit, 4444 RGBA
16-bit, 5551 RGBA
15-bit, 555 RGB
32-bit, 8888 RGBA
24-bit, 888 RGB

OVERALL :
MGATWEAK beta009=3041

POWERSTRIP 2.51.07:=3042

well I think PowerStrip is in race again...

[Helmchen2000]

up

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and ty%&§!° went down again

Helmchen