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**Kruzin** · 2 September 1999, 17:11

Whoomp.
There it is.

Notice about the reg hacks though:
Be sure your registry structure matches the reg hack (in the last branch "0000"). If your registry has the numbering differently (if the G400/200 is in 0001, 0002, etc.), you need to edit the reg hack to match your registry, or it will do nothing.

Hopefully, Matrox will release a util in the near future that will include a way to enable/disable vsynch without having to hack the registry...

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**Ant** · 2 September 1999, 17:14

Or use the uninstall utility and then install he drivers and you will be 0000.

**Randy Simons** · 2 September 1999, 17:21

Well.. it might be working for your G400, but for my G200 things are less positive:

Quake2, demo1 test:

With the previous drivers I got around 30fps. With new drivers I get 20fps. With gl_swapinterval 0 I get a whopping 22fps! (sync on frame off too)

But Quake2 is not the only game performance went down the drain. XTom3D has become unplayable due to bad framerates, not to mention those blending bugs.

I always use VSync enabled in registry, so that's no issue as well.

You said yesterday that they've put in the wrong driver in those PowerDesk 5.21.. Well, I get the feeling it's not a simply mix-up, since that would be an easy 5-minute-fix for Matrox to put on the correct drivers.
Obviously, that was not the case. So, what _did_ happen then?

Is there any relation with the hardware and the bad performance? Do G400 users also get bad numbers?

Randy

K6-2 333, MVP3, newest GART-drivers & other freakin' updates, Mill G200 8MB.

**Haig** · 2 September 1999, 17:22

Just make sure that all entries in the registry are gone and not just the 0000.

As Ant said, main reason with the slower performance is because Vsync is always on.

Haig

**Kruzin** · 2 September 1999, 17:23

Yea, Ant...EXCEPT....those particular keys are not unique to Matrox, the are generic windows keys. If you had another display adapter in there at some time, it could be left behind, even after the Matrox uninstaller

[This message has been edited by Kruzin (edited 09-03-1999).]

**Ant** · 2 September 1999, 17:29

Why would you want another board in there along with a G400? You whiners are always trying to put a dampner on everything

**LAMFDTK** · 2 September 1999, 17:41

Thanks for the help guys...
I just got done with a driver cocktail of 5.15 and 5.21 and Im back where I started at the 513 heheh but its faster than the 5.21 in Q3 and Q2 The d3d is a little better.
If I didnt have so much work to get done I'd mixed these 3 until they were dialed. But thats no going to happen.

Once again it would be great to get info from Matrox to help explain alot of questions. Valid questions.

Ant, this IBB is set up real nice great job!

**Haig** · 2 September 1999, 17:51

I forgot to mention that after disabling Vsync, if you still get no change in your Quake scores, delete its cfg file and try again.

Haig

**Randy Simons** · 2 September 1999, 17:52

Well, lookie here.. Phil (g200.com) does confirm it's a mix-up at Matrox, in which the wrong drivers got released, but another threat here states, that's NOT the case and it would be a VSync-problem... Since I had vsynv on anyway, I'll put my money on option 1 (let's hope so to).

opschieten, matrox..

Randy

**Kruzin** · 2 September 1999, 18:00

Phil (G200.com) is smoking crack

You have vsynch on (enabled). That's why your performance is down. TURN IT OFF (disable) if you want faster fps.

**The Rev** · 2 September 1999, 18:29

Will turning off VSync cause any graphic rendering problems during gameplay?

-The-Rev-

**paulcs** · 2 September 1999, 18:42

Once again, by posting a fix, Ant has proven himself a saint amongst men.

My benchmarks are back to where they were. Several nagging problems, including the Q2 lockups, appear to be cured. My display has never looked better, and my system appears to be more stable than it has been in quite some time. And Haig is back from that 6 month bikini-fest Club Med holiday. We didn't see the massive frame rate boost many of us expected, but things, at least for me, have improved.

A lesson should have been learned here. The next time we get a driver update and notice a 30% framerate loss, will we:

a) assume Vsync is enabled by default, or
b) hatch some bizarre conspiracy theory about viruses and incorrect ICD's, which will leak from the safe confines of the forums, into Usenet, and make everyone think Matrox has mysteriously transformed into ATI?

Vsync is pretty dull. I say the latter.

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

**Gurm** · 2 September 1999, 19:25

Ok, at the risk of losing my elite flame-retardant status around here, I'm gonna have to disagree with the other fellas on this one...

Here's why:

I always play with VSync on. Always. I turned it on when I got my card.

So my numbers (22.1,13.4,13.8 for the 5.15, 5.20, and 5.21 respectively) are ALL with VSync On.

So what you guys are saying then, is that Matrox somehow killed performance with Vsync on, and that if I now turn it off I'll see a world of difference? Why don't I buy that?

- Gurm

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**Rags** · 2 September 1999, 19:31

GURM,

I hate to break it to ya, but VSYNC was disabled in the previous PD 5.x versions, this version it works. That is why people are having problems. So, you have been happily playing with VSYNC disabled all this time, so why not have it disabled now?

Rags

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