Everyone seems to have probs

[MM]

Scout255 is not thinking straight, that's all. This is one hell of a great card he is talking about

Just checked out AVP and Nocturne - both rock the world. First with total immersion (it's really something when you can't save , second with graphics - haven't seen anything like that before!

Both fly at 1024x768. In fact I'm yet to see a game that wouldn't fly on this card provided you know how to configure the damn thing, of course



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P2c-300a/450, 192MB PC125 SDRAM, Quantum Fireball Plus KA 18.2GB 7200rpm, Panasonic 7502B x4/x8 Ultra SCSI CD-R, Tekram DC-390U2W Ultra2Wide SCSI controller, Diamond MX300 (Vortex2), Creative Labs AWE64 Gold Sound Blaster, A-Trend Voodoo II 12MB, Matrox Millennium G400Max, 19" Hitachi SuperScan 752 and some other fancy stuff

[Perception]

avp new patch can let u save =P

[KvHagedorn]

Scout-if you are dumb enough to drop $500 for a piece of hardware that sells for $250, there is probably no helping you, so I'm glad you wasted $75 on long distance instead of bothering anyone here for help, which you would have gotten cheerfully and for free if you'd been nice about it. Nuff said bout that.

About TV resolution, any current US model TV (NTSC) has a maximum (theoretical) resolution of 525 lines, measured on a slant. Though the TV might have a higher horizontal resolution through use of comb filters and other tweaking devices, this is useless for displaying computer information, mainly because it is interlaced. Why do you think no one uses a TV as their monitor? (unless they use WebTV or a TI99 museum piece, which were meant to use a TV) Use the TV for watching DVDs..

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Kind Regards,

KvH

[DK]

Scout,
I hope $500 was for 2 of them & not 1.


Derek

[Perception]

actually........ i was hoping to play quake 3 on tv ^^

[KvHagedorn]

I was hoping Claudia Schiffer would be waiting for me naked in my bedroom today, but alas, that never seems to happen.

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Kind Regards,

KvH

[sixpac]

Scout255-I think you should lay off the crack.For $500.00 dollars you can buy another
system,it won't be the best,but damn.It just goes to show how much research on prices you do before you buy something, and I personally
think your full of sh*t.Sorry guy's having a
bad day just tired of people coming here and
bashing Matrox products because they didn't
install it or don't know how to install or
install over other drivers.Sh*t am I being
RUDE I think all just drink a

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[Belmakor]

Well, Rainbow 6 runs fine here, no problems encountered for the bit of it I played.

And it's pretty much that simple to install the G400... I'd make sure you do a good cleaning out of drivers for the old card first. It seems to cause the most problems for people initially.

[SteveC]

I agree with the majority here - Ignore Sef255, sorry, was that Scout255
Use the latest drivers, do a touch of research and you will be fine. I was playing that prland demo last night - 2 bumpmapped screens at once? You do that on a TNT2!

Oh, and if you do have any problems, come back here and we'll sort them!

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Cheers,
Steve

[This message has been edited by SteveC (edited 09-05-1999).]

[Marmita]

Listen OpenGL is not dead BUT it will be in a few years... First its Old and to implement new hardware options like EPMP u have to make an extention to it. while with directX hense Direct3D the implementation of all the features is made by MS. BTW both DirectX and OpenGL are eventualy going to marge into something MS and Silicon Graphix r working on. its called faranhiet and its the future 3D API. I really wouldn't be worried about the G400 its a great card no other card has as much features and quality and I had a TNT2 too. its simply better. Slower on OpenGL but a better card. TNT2 TVOut is crappy as because it is based on a bad TVOut BookTree chip and no card has the DH tech its simply great !

[Scout255]

guys, i did a total reformat, and installed windows 98. no 3dfx drivers were installed at the time i installed the card, nothing. then when i booted up it froze emidately, with a black screen and a mouse curser. so, i could not use e-mail. then i phoned up the tech he said "remove all other cards from your motherboard, disable usb, and your secondary ide controller"
well, after that... it booted! yay! i can actually play a game with it now!
then the tech said "now put all your cards back in the machine, and phone back if it doesn't work."
so i do that.... hmm... black sceen... so i phone up matrox again and they say they are going to e-mail me new beta drivers.... okay, i ask how i am going to receve them because i have no network card. so, asa he is thinking, i ask him about changeing the drivers to standard vga, it works and i can actually receve e-mail. So he says he is sending them out, and that i should call back if they don't work. Well, after waiting 1 day for them to arive in my mail bin, and haveing them not arive, i phoned back. this time they said "oh sorry, your mail box must not accept files over 4 megs(which i found out was true), let me break it up and send it to you"
so, in 30 minutes, i had my drivers.

hopeing that they actually worked, i used the matrox uninstall utility, and installed the newest drivers he had provided me... hmm... it got past the blank screen, but now it freezes after windows log in.

So, i call back again. They say i should try takeing out my sound card... hmm... still doesn''t work... then they sudgested to try and take out just my network adapter... hmm... still doesn't work.

finally, one of the techs sudgested i use a registry patch to patch my registry to force bus mastering to be disabled.

FINALLY it worked! i could actually play my games!
so i go an load up quake2... hmm... no opengl hard ware detected....
so, hopeing it was just a fluke, i go and load up half life....
opengl crashes with a fatal error. Then i rembember about direct 3d being faster on matrox cards than opengl... so i try that out... it works! YAY! i can actually play...

i upped the res to 1024X768, knowing from previous reviews that it would be playable...
hmm.... kinda choppy....
so i accept that, and lower it to 640X480....
hmm.... a lower frame rate than it had at the higher resolution....
After that, i thought that i should try the expendables demo that was included with the drivers....
i install it, and hoped to be able to see embm in action.....
hmm....
changes resolutions 5 times then quits without a error message....
hmm, must be my sound mode... so i go and disable sound, and kick it down to 640X480 @ 16 bit... still crashes....
so, basically, thats where i am now... Heavily PO'ed at matrox, and unable to play quake2, halflife, expendables, or kingpin, just because i bought a matrox card.

if anyone has any hints, i would be gratefull, and will retract my previous statement.
if i offended anyone, i appoligize, i was merily angry at matrox...

[Joel]

What would be helpfully is if you could include some system specs, that is if you actually own a system.

Joel

[Kruzin]

If it worked when you had nothing but the G400 in there, and didn't work after all the components where put back in, It obviously a conflict with one of those devices/drivers.

Yank em all again, get it working, then put them back ONE AT A TIME until you find the culprit...

[Bohrn]

Scout255, are u using an Intel chip based motherboard (LX or BX) Or are u using a Via
or other Super Socket 7 Board. If you are using one of the Via's or other ones you might need to upgrade your motherboard drivers. I don't have one of these as I run a CeleronA system with a BX board but I have heard that this can be a problem with the SS7 /Amd (or god forbid a Cyrix) systems. Just a suggestion. And no anti Cyrix flames people,
we all know that they are good for regular computing and they are real cheap, but not much good for games. And ol'Scout here really wants to play games.

Also, Scout255, you might have a bad card. Test your G400 in another person's machine. For that matter test as many of the other components that you can in a working machine. It might be the motherboard for that matter. Or an errant bios setting. Oh god, Im'running off at the finger, I'll go now...

[Scout255]

Abit BP6
Celeron 400
256 meg pc-133 ram
Matrox G400 MAX
Panasonic 32X CD-ROM Running as primary off ide #1
NEC 1gig HD (no idea what the name of it is) running primary slave off primary ide channel w/ cd-ROM
3COM Network TPO Ten Base-T NIC PCI Card
NEC Floppy
Soundblaster LIVE! Value OEM
Quantium Fireball Plus KA 9.1 GIG Running on the primary ata/66 chanel
AOpen PC-'99 Keyboard
Logitech Mouseman+ w/ wheel
ok, i took some screenshots of everything you should ever need to know, and made them black and white so they are really small
My Irq's
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my hardware config
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