Tilt and Lick? Won't that mostly appeal to the female user?
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I tried the "Tilt & lick" combination down the boozer with unsatisfactory results...
..there were loads of fag-butts (Cigarettes to any Americans) on the pinball machine at the time and I covered my tongue with ash.
...which was nice...
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CLUEBIE:
AGP4X uses same style connector as 2X.
The 'longer' connector some of you may seen (cough*asus camino*cough) is AGP Pro. Its an _electrical_ and _mechanical_ extension of AGP, nothing more. It is backward compatible, and you can use old agp cards with it just fine at old speeds. Its to pump up to 110 watts just to the AGP card, block up to 2 PCI slots. Or 50W and 1 PCI. BTW, most cpus don't break 20W
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Zypher,
I think that you might be a little misinformed. AGP 2x and 4x connectors are different. The notches are at different ends, so that one style of card cannot be inserted in the wrong style of slot (unless it's a G400, w/ both notches).
The reason for this is that the 2x spec and the 4x spec have different voltages, and probably a few other things.
-Wombat
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CLUBIE:
Wombat is right. They are different. Many of today's cards will never fit into a 4x mobo. The G200 will not (only has 1 notch towards the rear). G400 has 2 notches, so it will fit in either style. Eventually, we will see boards that will only have the notch towards the front, and those will not fit into the current 2x slots...Core2 Duo E7500 2.93, Asus P5Q Pro Turbo, 4gig 1066 DDR2, 1gig Asus ENGTS250, SB X-Fi Gamer ,WD Caviar Black 1tb, Plextor PX-880SA, Dual Samsung 2494s
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Kruzin and Wombat are partially correct,
AGP 2.0 specification calls for a lower voltage for 4X mainboards, therfore the new style of connector for mainboards that support only the lower voltage. The spec also allows a universal connector for mainboards that will auto detect the type of card being used, therfore I am sure we will see some mainboards with the backwards compatible connector. It's a moot point if you are a G400 user, because it will fit in either slot and will automatically switch it's voltage to match.
Rags
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I think everyone is partially correct
jim
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The notch is news to me...last I saw 4x would use one of a few 'reserved' pins left over from AGP 1.0 for the different voltage lines...so that 4x-only cards might not work *backward* in 1.0 slots. But that was a few months ago so AFAIK, anything could go.
The good news I like hearing being that g400 won't care either way
Any bets on g400 and 4x? Cough, maybe a matrox terd can "leak" something to us, doesn't have to be official, just reassuring.
Not like it would really speed up anything though :P
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sorry, but who cares about AGP 4x, Tilt and Lick will have more affect on performance than a little extra speed, I mean lets face it, not everything is best done fast, take the ViRGE Decelerator, it was a winner with OEM (Orbital Engine Manufacturers) for years and years, why? Because it was cheap, and it cut output of harmful graphics by 30fps. Matrox already have the equivalent in the G200, in fact, the G200 is renowned for it's high input low ouput configuration. Matrox are onto a winner as far as I'm concerned, why try and speed things up with AGP 4x when you can make it more complicated with Tilt and Lick. Besides, it'll be a new market for them, when was the last time you saw a computer product in your local sex toy store?
As for the sandals, that's most likely just rumours, although what with all you old folk around, they might take heed of the rumours and listen to what the people have to say!
Dave K
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heh. thanks Agent. I really needed some well thought out cynicism this morning. Seriously Granted tho I kinda like Tree and Leave accelerator too
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