MGATweak vs Matrox Tweak Utility

[Random H]

Hello.

To all of you overclocking your G400 Maxes.. Are you doing the overclocking with additional fans tacked onto the video card or without? I'd like to see how far I can push my Max but without the fans.. Any safe numbers? I'm working with a AMD K6-2 450 with 256 megs of ram.. Suggestions? Thanks!

[SCompRacer]

Random H, airflow in and out of the case is the big factor here to reject heat. Directing this air over the cards is better yet to keep it's cool.

I was O/C an OEM 16MB card prior to getting my MAX and one of the fans in the front of my full tower blew air across the heat sink.

Have you got case limitations that prevent you from adding fans? Remember, necessity is the Mother of all invention.

[Jacco Hoeve]

Hi..

I OCed my G400 too. It's a G400 SH with 16MB. It runs at 160/200 and its rocksolid.
Pitty is the fact that MGA Tweak doesnt save the settings at my machine. Not even if I did check that option.

My idea for the ideal overclocker is that MGA Tweak itself saves the settings in de registry like Matrox Tweak does. I tried to figure out the registry settings and I think most options can be changed. I am not sure if it lets you change the multiplier though. You can find this reg. key under 0000/settings/engine/clocks ..or something

Anyway..running this G400 with 5.25+beta ICD makes me do 100FPS in Quake2 at 640x480x16bit(weeeeeeee). But thats probably because of my Athlon at 500MHz. I want to OC that puppy too but I havent got the ability to iron like that. So I am waiting for the ideal motherboards to get out!



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Jacco
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MSI-6167,Athlon 500MHz,256MB,G400 16MSH(160/200)

[Olivier]

Sorry for this off-topic message but there're now more than 16 replies in this thread and i can only read my first message and the reply by Marmita no more...
Bug in the forum ? This problem occurs when i read once a thread? If you have any ideas send me an email because it's worry me.

Olivier

[SteveC]

Clear your cache and try again.

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Cheers,
Steve

PS: Some or all of the above message may be wrong, or, just as likely, correct. Depends on what mood I'm in. And what you know. ;¬)

[DentyCracker]

Cmag, I use MGATweak with my G200.
The best I can get is Fo 190.59 (2.00/1.50/2.00)
SGRAM 3 1 2 4 2 1 Fast 1 1 1 0.0 0.0 Mclk 1217 Not sure what Memory refresh stuff does
With those settings I get a paltry 1504 3DMarks. With Ant's SGRAM settings I get 1436 3DMarks.

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Cracker_99
VA-503+rev 1.2A, 450 MHz K6-III, 96 MB EDO DRAM, 10 GB Maxtor HD, SB Live!, Millennium G200 8MB AGP, AVerMedia TV98, AOPEN CRW 9420, FPS 1000, 2 MS SideWinder Gamepads
Win98 (2222A), BeOS 4.5.2, RedHat 5.2 with Kernel 2.2.12

[MentalVacuum]

Got my Max 2 days ago, and it rocks! Thanks to KJLiew( if u ever come to Northridge CA, Beer's on me, bro) and his Tweak utility, my Max is currently humming at the following specs:

F0=459.80, 2.5/2/2/2.5 for 183.60/229.50/183.60MHz.

Sgram settings are: 3,1,3,9,3,1,Fast,1,1,1,1.2,1.2,2883.

This setup gives me 32FPS in UNreal FlyBy at 1024/32/max setting, no visual artifacs or tearing, and factory fan whereas the Matrox tweak only allows me 116% before Unreal gets all psychedelic, which equal 174/232MHz. THUS MGA Tweak is my choice of arms.


I've got a P2-300/464 at 2.0(refuses to do more no matter what, suggestions gladly accepted), ABIT BE-6, WD 9.1/7200/66, 128MB cas2 7ns, G400MAX, Aureal SuperQuad, Toshiba sd-m1212 DVD, Landmark 299 case/300W. 2 80mm/36cfm case fans and a VEK32 are doing the job keeping the thing cool.




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"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -"The Guide"by D. Adams)

[Cmag]

Dentycracker,

Thanks for the info. I had my G200 set at fo 190.50 (2.0/1.5/2.0).
SGRAM optimization disabled
With these settings, I get 1783 3DMarks and 4625 CPU 3Dmarks on an AMD K6-2 400 o/c to 450 with 128 megs SDRAM. When I turned on SGRAM Op, and left it at the default setting, I got 1729 3DMarks and 4563 CPU 3DMarks. When I tried your settings, I got 1781 3DMarks and 4494 CPU 3DMarks. This was using the 5.25 drivers.
Does anyone remember from their old G200 days if these scores are any good?

Thanks

Cmag

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Consequences smonsequences, as long as I’m rich

[kjliew]

Cmag,
Turning on SDRAM/SGRAM optimization while leaving them at default states is a serious mistake in using MGATweak. You're sure to get performance drop if you do this. This is clearly stated and BOLDED in the PDF user guide. Hope you can read the PDF user guide or dick into past archives of my website for details on optimized memory timings.

MentalVacuum,

A...Ha, thanks! Glad to hear that.

[dnickle]

Jacco, make a shortcut to MGAtweak in your start-up folder, right click on the shortcut and go to properties, then check "run minimized". This will save your settings, and auto load in your system tray at start-up. cheers!

[Olivier]

With my G400 Max i cannot got more than 204mhz for the memory clock, beyond this point in D3D several garbles appear, so i don't know how Ant and Mental Vaccum can go up to 229mhz !?
My best score using MGATweak is
fo=408.38mhz
gclk=163.35mhz
mclk=204.19mhz
wclk=163.35mhz

[rickn]

olivier: can your card to 180mhz core?

try 450 pll, 2.25mclk, 2.5 gclk and wclk

[This message has been edited by rickn (edited 09-20-1999).]

[Olivier]

rickn: no
unreal hangs immediatly (nice puzzle on the screen )

so i keep my current settings...

[Jake]

Does the Matrox tweak util ver. 1.12 run correctly with the G200??? When I install and run it on my system, all I get when doubleclicking the icon on the taskbar is a box that allows me to change FlipOnVBlank on or off. No OC slider or other settings to change?!?!?!? Am I doing something wrong here?

I'm using PD 5.25 on my G200 Mill.

Regards,

Jake

[motub]

Hey Jake... I have exactly the same situation, so if you're doing something wrong, we both are...

[I pity the fool who tells me I'm doin' sumthin' wrong... I pity the fool who'd imply that I'm not perfect in every way... I truly pity the fool who might take this opportunity to make a SS7 crack...]

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Holly
"...\Till the one day when the lady met this fellow\ And they knew that it was much more than a hunch.." What? System specs? Oh, yes, right...Soyo 5EMA, K6-2 333, 256MB PC100 SDRAM, Maxtor 7GB HDD, LS-120, Promise Ultra33 EIDE controller, Diamond Monster Sound MX300, HP 8100i CD-RW, Hi-Val (Nakamichi) 16X 5-disk CD changer, Win98 +SR1...oh yeah, and a Millennium G200 8MB SGRAM.



[This message has been edited by motub (edited 09-21-1999).]