ABIT motherboard compatibility

[dwright]

Hello Haig,
I have an Aopen full tower case with the 300w power supply (core=2.02,I/O aux=1.49, 3.3=3.31, +5=5.13, +12=11.67, -12=11.85, -5=-5.03) . My G400max is from Ireland and has two fan wires sn=fA06862_. I have original bh6 not 1.1.

[glarec]

well.. i tried turning my cpus' voltage up to 2.30 with the same lock up problem. the abit bp6 i got will only let me to up to 2.30. like i posted it before, i have the 2 wires version with metal blade fans. now haig, is there anyway i can exchange this without calling long distance to tech support to exchange this card? what info do i need to get the rma? i can't seem to locate my receipt should i look for the sn on the card?

thanx for the reply in advance

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Glarec
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bp6-(2)433(oc488) celerons, g400max, ibm ultra scsi 9.1g, sb-live value, hitachi ss-753 19", plextor 32x, etc, etc, etc...

[glarec]

well.. i tried turning my cpus' voltage up to 2.30 with the same lock up problem. the abit bp6 i got will only let me to up to 2.30. like i posted it before, i have the 2 wires version with metal blade fans. now haig, is there anyway i can exchange this without calling long distance to tech support to exchange this card? what info do i need to get the rma? i can't seem to locate my receipt should i look for the sn on the card?

thanx for the reply in advance



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Glarec
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bp6-(2)433(oc488) celerons, g400max, ibm ultra scsi 9.1g, sb-live value, hitachi ss-753 19", plextor 32x, etc, etc, etc...

[glarec]

sorry for the double posts.. don't know how it happened.. anyway.. as for haig's question, i am using a supermicro 750a case with a sparkle power model fsp 300-60gt power supply.

+3.3v=14.0a(org)
+5.0vsb=.85a(purp)
+5.0v=30.0a(red)
-5.0v=0.3a(blue)
+12v=12.0a(yellow)
-12v=1.0a(brown)

i think that's it.. let me know what else you need.. my email address is frojj@ev1.net if you need anymore info or if you can exchange the card for me.. thanx

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Glarec
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bp6-(2)433(oc488) celerons, g400max, ibm ultra scsi 9.1g, sb-live value, hitachi ss-753 19", plextor 32x, etc, etc, etc...

[3rdStone]

For Haig (power supply info):

Power Man FSP300-60GI power supply which was included in my Inwin Q500 case. I have the AGP 2x lockups in a system with Abit BH6, SB Live value, G400Max metal 2 wire fan assembled in Ireland.

Which is most likely the troublesome bit of hardware- the Abit mainboard, the SB Live, the power supply, or the G400Max? If putting in a new soundcard, mainboard, or PS will fix things, I'll order one tonight.

Thanks for being here Haig.

Jay

[rinkol]

I have the agp 2x lockup problem with a vanila 16 mb g400 and bp6. I am using the acer hx08 full tower case with 300 watt power supply, so I don't think a shortage of power is the problem, particularly as the power supply voltages read OK. I also found that my problems seem to be worse with the more recent drivers. Of 5.11, 5.13 and 5.25, with dx7, I can only successfully run the tech demo for more than a few tens of minutes using the 5.11 driver and even this requires the agp 1x registry hack and the bios tweaks.

The problems do not seem associated with overclocking. I have not seriously tried overclocking although in the little experimentation I have done, the problems do not seem to be affected by the choice of fsb. When I first put the computer together, I used a generic i740 card until my G400 arrived, and recall that I was able to run prime 95 overnight without trouble (I also hadn't set it up for ata66 at that point), so I don't think there is any problem on the cpu end of things.

This whole business has been very painful - I was having ata66 lockups, so I was attributing the video card lockups to the ata66 controller. When I gave up on ata66, I found that I was still getting lockups, (though not nearly as many), and that things just got worse when I tried newer drivers. I am now wondering if the g400 was somehow connected with the ata66 lockups.

Robert Inkol

[bcronin]

For what its worth, my power supply is a PC Power and Cooling Turbo Cool 300. Voltages (as reported by Sandra Pro) look ok. I am running my system at all the BIOS defaults (Abit BX6 R2.0 "MW" BIOS, the latest I believe), including CPU voltage (2.0 volts).
I don't have the bad MAX anymore so I can't test whether changing the CPU voltage helps.


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Cheers,
BC

[Brad D]

Haig,

This is not a problem specific to MOBOS and G400Max with Metal Blade fans. The same lockups have been reported by myself (G400 D/H Vanilla Not MAX, therefore no fan) as well as other user with 16MB Dual and SingleHead.

From what I have read, I think this is a quality control issue. If the next batch of drivers don't resolve the issue, I think you're going to be getting a lot of cards back with Faulty chips. NEC cut any corners in production? Maybe the product was rushed out by your product managers before thorough testing could be completed?

[cjolley]

Who has L2 cache EEC on-vs-off in this group.
I know it's obscure but you never know.
I have no problems & I am trying to find differences.
chuck

oops I mean L2
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ABit BH6 w/ Celery 333@500, 128mb gh@cas2, 10gb IBM@7200, SB Live Value@????, noname CDRom@40x, Mitsumi CDRW@2x2x8, Zoom@56k, Princeton EO75@1024x768x32x85hz, Matrox G400 MAX!!!!



[This message has been edited by cjolley (edited 09-30-1999).]

[SCompRacer]

A little off the subject but I read a review, page 70, in October 99 Maximum PC about exception errors on the Abit BX-6 R2 when filling up all DIMM slots. They were using Micron RAM. They also allude to a TNT-memory problem, but pass it off as a possible Micron RAM issue.

A friend wants a 'puter built with this MB so he can pursue serious O/C'ing. So does this have anything to do with the G400 problem or is it unrelated and not a problem with you folks? A G400 of some type will end up in it.

[Haig]

They also have a warning about power supply issues with TNT cards.

- http://www.abit.com.tw/english/faq/index.htm


We suggest that you had better to attention the power supply specification, especially in the maximum output force of power supply and the maximum supplied current of 3.3 Volt, because of the RIVA TNT chip needs more current for working around. In general, the above 250 Walt maximum output force of power power supply and 15A maximum supplied current of 3.3 Volt will be better than below.

Brad, there is more than one problem here. I'm gathering as much info as I can so that we can get to the bottom of this.

If anyone wants to RMA their cards, they are free to do so. I never told anyone that they can't have their boards replaced.

A few clients have allready done so and they now have no problems. The only difference is the fan between both boards.

I also said that the metal bladed fan uses 30ma more current which is why I wanted to see what power supplies clients were using.

As for the non max boards locking up, this is a different issue for us.

Haig

[Brad D]

Haig,

Could you kindly explain what the "different issue" is with regards to non-MAX G400's ?

My specs are above, do you recommend I get a replacement from my reseller?

BTW, I lent the G400 to a guy at work to try on his ASUS P2B MOBO and he get's lock-ups as well. I also tried the G400 on my girlfriend BH6 MOBO, same problem.

[glarec]

just an update.. i decided to call matrox to get the card exchanged. i was wondering if anyone can clarify some questions i have:

1) is 877 a toll free or long distance number?

2) the lady i talked to has no idea what i am talking about when i asked if i can get the 3 wires and plastic blade fans.. do i have to clarify that or just try my luck and hope that'll send me the right one?

3) is matrox suppose to pay for the cross shipping or am i suppose to pay for that?

4) if i decide to get the card first, then ship the old one back.. do i end up having to pay shipping again?

thanx for the reply in advance.

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Glarec
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bp6-(2)433(oc488) celerons, g400max, ibm ultra scsi 9.1g, sb-live value, hitachi ss-753 19", plextor 32x, etc, etc, etc...

[Rob M.]

Sorry, apparently I'm not frequenting my forums often enough. My lockups are with a "Solar Power" (? - I don't see any solar cells, and it works in the dark) power supply, model # SPX-250

[Rob M.]

Sorry, apparently I'm not frequenting my forums often enough. My lockups are with a "Solar Power" (? - I don't see any solar cells, and it works in the dark) power supply, model # SPX-250