oh no! g200, va-503+ & ogl

[DuRaNgO]

O.K. trying to get my brothers comp running, after three reinstalls of win98se, using the patches from via for the mobo, installing PD 5.25 and also PD 5.30, the computer locks in a light grey screen whenever starting quake 2 in default opengl
I have tried with no other cards in the box

the specs are:
FIC va-503+ rev 1.1a with newest bios
amd k6-300
maxtor hdd
mill g200 8mb sgram with newest bios
64 mb ram
usb enabled
irq reserved for video
2x agp enabled

any thoughts?
jim

[PhilG]

Uninstall the 5.30 drivers properly ( go to the matrox site for more information).
Install the via drivers ( bus master, agp drivers etc..)
Reinstall the 5.30 drivers

[DuRaNgO]

thanks Phil, I'll give it a go
jim

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PIII-500mhz @ 620!
Abit BE6 mobo
128mb pc-100
Mill G400(YAHOO!!!) 32mb @ 120%)
PD 5.30
Maxtor 13.2 gb Uata66 hdd
SB Live!
Winblows 98se
DX7
THREE BIG FANS, six little ones and a case that sounds like a turbine engine...doh!

[DuRaNgO]

nope, did the same thing, I just tried using the old d3d wrapper and no difference, I've also tried with dx6.1 and then dx7, I forgot how much fun these early mvp3 boards were

jim

[Heirauqs]

Turn off DualHead if it's on.

[Heirauqs]

oh sorry it's a g200, nevermind

[kevind224]

you may know this already...but with the VA503+ you usually must disable the read-around write cache setting in the bios. Also, running the board at 2x AGP can be a problem.

kevin

[DuRaNgO]

hmmm, well already had "read" and "write" disabled, reflashed both the vid and mobo bios's just to make sure and still crashes when quake2 started in ogl, it will run in soft but that sucks as bad as a brand new commodore64
does anyone here have these two running together? i.e. g200 & va-503+
thanks, jim

[DentyCracker]

In three words
Disable_Bus_Mastering

worked for me

[DuRaNgO]

would that be the Via or Matrox bus mastering?
jim

[shoarthing]

Why use via patches with W98SE? HD performance better [for me] with Ms
drivers + DMA on. Have same problem
with 503+, G200 Mill SGRAM, and Powerdesk
5.x; but via drivers weird stuff -
gave me a 2nd [reported]"SCSI host adaptor"!
Disabling bus-mastering seems a bit
drastic.

[Rags]

Durango,

Follow these instructions exactly:


Download the new G200 drivers (which you have already =) ), download the 4in1 driver pack from Via, download the uninstall utility from Matrox, run the uninstall utility, reboot switch to standard Vga adapter and reboot, install the 4in1 driver pack in NORMAL mode, reboot and go into your bios and disable "read around write" save settings and exit, boot into windows and run the setup for PD 5.3, reboot and you should be up to speed.

Rags

This has worked with EVERY G200/503+ combo I have built(a bunch!).

[DuRaNgO]

O.K. this is the last time, after this, I'll be doing a benchmark on this system on how fast I can get it out my window

thanks rags,

jim

[DuRaNgO]

well I've tried every suggestion 3 times and still the same effect, runs fine until ogl starts then (*&^%$#$%^^ crash I'm thinking maybe hdd? it's an old 1.3g maxtor, it's the only thing in the case other than the vid card.
thanks for the help
jim

[Rags]

Okay, then you will need to disable "Write cache pipeline". I have seen 2 boards that needed this disabled as well. If that doesn't work, let me know, I have some more ideas.

Rags