you all are gonna love this

[rickn]

I got this in an email from 3dlabs today..

"PERMEDIA3 CREATE! VS. THE MATROX G400 MAX
Considering purchasing a Matrox G400 MAX? Think again, the Permedia3 Create! is a better choice at a lower cost! Please visit http://www.3dlabs.com/products/p3vg400
<http://www.3dlabs.com/products/p3vg400> for a full comparison between the Permedia3 Create! and the Matrox G400 MAX."

Try not to fall out of your seats with laughter

[This message has been edited by rickn (edited 03 November 1999).]

[Rags]

Oh yeah!!! I am ordering one right now!!!!

Rags

[space7]

This is wath 3Dlabs say. I ting I will wait the real critics. And to late I have my G400 and just finished to resolve all problem and i am satisfaied with it. 304 Mhz ? Fact or fiction ? If fiction is legal to gave this type of information ???

[Guyver]

Anybody feel like sicking someone like "the banished" upon them?

Sounds like they had a G400 (not a MAX). Isn't the RAMDAC in the non MAX 304 or so? That would account for the lower max 32Bit resolution I think. I know I've had my system at 1600x1200@32Bit color depth. They are I believe "legally" liable for slanderous and obviously untrue statements.

Go sue their @$$e$ off Matrox....

Guyv

[space7]

Rags if you by one give me your MURCer title. Wath is this jock's now that I am persuaded that I made the good choise. People in a MATROX!!! forum wan't to have a Creative card. Ha! People that are MURCer!!! Wath this is you trying to say indirecly that you gonna change the name of this site to 3DLab. And youse all The G400 or MAX to play freesbee with them!!???

[Guyver]

I sent a little nasty-gram to these blatantly "in my opinion" idiots.... Do they think they can get away with these obviously erroneous statements?

Here's a copy of the message

I think you had better start fixing the obviously “erroneous” information on your site regarding the G400 MAX. I went ahead and printed the pages for hardcopy (dated and timed).

The data you posted is obviously from a G400 not a MAX.

I personally have seen my system run @ 1600x1200x32Bit color depth so that is obviously a mistake – (That could be read as slanderous or liable – and could cost you a fortune in legal fees).

Here’s a snippet from their website – which includes the “supposedly” missing NT drivers…. Hmmm – care to answer this one..

Win 95/98 Win NT4 Win
NT 3.5x Win 3.1x OS/2 Win
2000 Misc.


Millennium
G400
5.30.007
4.22.081
2.51.094
1.61.004
2.31.100
BETA
4.90.068
ICD

Hmmm – Mini MCD – I don’t think so. The latest drivers include a Full ICD along with an Optimized mini-ICD for certain games… That does not qualify as not having a Full ICD I believe….

I cannot refute/qualify the claim on Interrupts so I’ll let that one go…

To summarize…


Fix the chart … It’s incorrect.

Quantify your statement – with irrefutible 3rd (non-involved) party information regarding timings and interrupts.

Correct the statements regarding the OpenGL ICD issue.

Fix the statement regarding the Driver versions and supported OS as well as those available for download at the Matrox Site.

Fix the statement regarding the RAMDAC speed.

Fix the statement regarding the Maximum 32Bit resolution.

Oh, and by the way. This message has been forwarded to a well known Matrox related site – so you may get more feedback than you bargained for….

Larry Becke

Miffed Matrox User

Guyver

[JAZZ]

Guyver,

Where did you send yours : info@3dlabs.com
support@3dlabs.com or
webmaster@3dlabs.com

[Tom]

Don't forget about the free t-shirt!

[The Rock]

Permedia???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hha....deep breath....hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a.

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The Rock
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: His eyes are closed."
-- Albert Einstein

[Storm]

I used to have a Permedia videocard - 3 words: Piece Of Sh*t.
G400MAX Beats the crap out of Permedia 3.. why can't they just admit it? Arrogant bastards... (sorry, i'm in one of those moods..)

[Shazbot]

I just have to order one.. just for the t-shirt.. It's gonna be a collectors item.. I'll be the only one with it..

[JAZZ]

No you won't...

[alessandro]

Permedia ...what's that ....
OOooH yes ..isn't the company that produced the HIGHLY SUCCESSFULL(hahahahaHAHAhihi) Permedia 2 the only card that could compete and surpass the Matrox M3D,(HAHAHaa),if you visit 3DMark.com you can easily see that even the mighty Millenium II is 2 times faster in 3DMark MAX and it not even a 3D card(hahahah..i can't stop help..HAHAHAHAH)

By the way if you have remarked in the Permedia3vsG400MAX test in their homepage you can see clearly in the <Polygon Artifacts - Lightscape Viewer> picture that the drops pixels are CREATED from a painting program(they have a very saturated black ).
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Maybe they have buyed a brand new Photoshop v5.5 and they wanted to tried somewhere,SPECIALY the new Distrorsion plug-ins.HAHAHAHAHAH

[alessandro]

Permedia ...what's that ....
OOooH yes ..isn't the company that produced the HIGHLY SUCCESSFULL(hahahahaHAHAhihi) Permedia 2 the only card that could compete and surpass the Matrox M3D,(HAHAHaa),if you visit 3DMark.com you can easily see that even the mighty Millenium II is 2 times faster in 3DMark MAX and it not even a 3D card(hahahah..i can't stop help..HAHAHAHAH)

By the way if you have remarked in the Permedia3vsG400MAX test in their homepage you can see clearly in the (Polygon Artifacts - Lightscape Viewer) picture that the drops pixels are CREATED from a painting program(they have a very saturated black ).
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Maybe they have buyed a brand new Photoshop v5.5 and they wanted to try it somewhere,SPECIALY the new Distorsion plug-ins.HAHAHAHAHAH

[PaulS]

It is interesting that they concentrate on NT - it is certainly where Matrox are most vulnerable. I don't know of any NT/2000 users that haven't had pretty serious reservations about how well they will be supported by Matrox.

Paul.

[This message has been edited by PaulS (edited 03 November 1999).]