This is a message torward Haig.

[Alfie]

It's always a shame when it comes down to all this bullshit.
Yes I'm referring to you madman,I remember your original post,bad-mouthing matrox support.
Instead of reading through the possible solutions and trying them,you decided to argue the point,everyone was trying to help you,and you just insisted on being arrogant and argue all the points.
There was a post here with some fellow trying to get his g400 to work,his experience with computers was limited,and he had an irq conflict.There were more than 70 posts to help him.He stuck with it and got it to work.
No insults,no this card sucks,no moronic attitude
and that's what I call MURC POWER
On this forum you have the ability to get help from some of the most knowlegeable people around,but it seems you would rather argue.
WHAT A WASTE!!!

[George]

Hi Madman,

I was just wondering why it was a problem that Haig posted your real name instead of your handle?

George

[Kruzin]

"But the .chk files from scan disk are filling up my root directory because of all the reboots."

So, don't run scandisk every time you reboot (you can turn it off with tweakui), and delete those .chk files that are there...they don't need to be saved for any reason.

[LAMFDTK]

"I am NOT an american. I'm glad because I don't have the arrogance and the stupidity of most americans."

Man have you ever seem the Beverly Hillbillies? They are good folk!

[SwAmPlAdY]

Well, let it be known that my theory about subscribers with earhtlink.com have been proven once again

Kai, you got offended when Haig posted your first name but you have your email address enabled for all of us to see.

Where's your logic with that?

PS: I see you making an ass of yourself on the newsgroups aren't ya

SwAmPy

[KvHagedorn]

All right, Madman, I'm sorry I "bagged" on your English. But if most Americans are so arrogant and stupid, why don't you go back to wherever you came from? If you aren't an American, then what? You only live and work here? Well, since I have no native American blood, I must say the same for myself. But if you are going to live here, work here, and claim to be able to discern that Haig was "telling you off" when he was in fact not, you are going to be held accountable for your use and understanding of the English language. Don't simply assume someone was being a jerk towards you when the true case is that you just didn't understand him. Or perhaps you didn't understand him because you really are MAD. I don't know. I don't care. I did not try to argue with you because there really seemed to be no point in doing so. If you are really going to try and communicate now and not be a paranoid ass, maybe you will be worth talking to.

By the way, since you like car analogies, here's one. The G400 was designed to be a very high performance card. You have to approach it that way. You would not expect your new Porsche to run as well if you used regular gas in it and never changed the oil. If you will have some patience, maybe even to the point of starting over and setting up your system correctly from the beginning, one thing at a time, things might work for you. I am no serious tech guru myself, but I know not to try and screw with things and assume they will work. When I have a problem, I try and hold my tongue until I <u>know</u> what's wrong. Then I do my best to find out, maybe with some advice from my friends here. And they aren't rude to me. In fact, they overwhelm me with helpfulness, because they are really good people if you are good to them and don't assume that they are just here to flame you because you said something bad about Matrox. We have all said something bad about Matrox at one time or another. They aren't perfect. Nothing designed by humans can be perfect (and this goes double for our antiquated system of IRQs).

Before he got upset with you, Kruzin (and others) told you to just chill (which is a friendly way of saying "you're being an ass right now, but I won't hold it against you if you'll just calm down and be reasonable"), and he still seems to be willing to help, after all this.

Just have some patience, don't give up, and don't try to act like you know it all.. none of us do. Together, though, we can come close. That's why the forum format works, when you use some common courtesy.

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Kind Regards,

KvH




[This message has been edited by KvHagedorn (edited 04 November 1999).]

[paulcs]

The anti-American comment Madman made was stated in the heat of arguement, and, while I don't approve of insulting the better part of 230,000,000 people because your video card isn't working, I think it should be forgotten.

Madman, there a couple of unwritten taboos on this newsgroup. Taking to task Matrox personnel and the beta testers is a very bad idea here, as we appreciate their efforts and have become dependant on them. If your first post is interpreted as whining or an attack on Matrox, members tend to react negatively.

By the way, the standard response to getting the forum members upset with you is to *insist* you were drunk when posting, and, therefore, cannot not be held accountable. The diminished capacity defense goes a long way here.

On the upside of things, I've noticed with each driver upgrade, more and more people find Sandra reporting AGP 2x. Sometimes you just need a driver upgrade to get things working right. Oddly enough, no one has reported a performance increase upon reporting AGP 2x capability. It just doesn't make a difference at this point, and, very likely, your problem will be fixed sometime in the near future.

Have you tried your board in another system? I think this is the next step.

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[space7]

NA!NA!NA!HA!HA!HA I'm not a american !!!!! HA!HA!HA! you don't insult me. OOOOOUUUOUOUOUOUPPPPPPSSSSSS. Matrox is a canadian product. And I am a Canadian. Are you insulting me. Bad boy! Bad boy ! what you gonna do when Matrox come for you ?

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Sorry for my English.
A G400 in a new G4 have wing's

[everettes]

Kruzin, No offense here, but you've touched on something I've stated in another NG when you said this:
"So, don't run scandisk every time you reboot (you can turn it off with tweakui), and delete those .chk files that are there...they don't need to be saved for any reason."

I should not, and will not, disable half of the features on my machine to get this card to work. That's a ridiculous request.

For the record, here's what the post at that NG said:

"No offense to the other people here or at MURC, but I'm not about to disable half the features
on my PC to run this video card. Busmastering, ECC, AGP 2x support, slide
acceleration down a notch, switch IRQ's, swap slots, try it without this,
without that, try this registry hack, and countless clean installs (I can
type "Format c: " BLIND NOW). If they would see it from this view, they may
understand our disappointment.

Right now I have to have the SCSI adapter in PCI slot one, which everyone
told me not to because now it's sharing an IRQ(but it's the most stable that
way), have to use 32 bit color for everything ( Lord forbid I even think
about opening display properties( That's a one way road to a lock up), and
have busmastering disabled. If it can't run with the most popular hardware
out there, then there HAS to be a problem. I'd be happy if Matrox would just
say "We acknowledge there's a problem, and we're working on it". But
instead, get flamed and told it's my system. After eight days of trying
everything in the book including switching mainboards and SDRAM, I feel
safe in saying it's definitely the card. The only piece of hardware I
haven't removed in all the swapping and installs is the SCSI adapter, and
that's because all my CD drives are SCSI. But that's what one E-mail would
have me do. Just what all do I have to disable for a properly functioning
card? LOL

BTW, I even had an E-mail regarding the SE440BX-2 telling me I should get a
mainboard with and Intel BX chipset. No Kidding.

Hmmm, Intel- Now featuring The Via Apollo Plus chipset



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[Madman]

Hmmm....interesting how funny replies get posted after a hardware/IRQ listing. Anywho, here's what I've tried already:

Installing windows 98 SE with only the matrox card in the computer system. My SCSI card is also in of course (so my CD-ROM drives will work). During installation, an error message comes up (I forgot what it is), but it's the one with the red circle and a x in the middle oh right left hand side. I hit okay and the installation continues. I tried to reinstall 3 times and every single time, this happens. After completely loading Windows and ignoring the error, I load the latest Matrox drivers and after the card warms up, bam. The screen gets neon(?) green colors and my system freezes.

Btw, I take back the American thing. I'm sure that you guys do know that there are lots of non-American natives here in the US also, and I don't think they'll appreciate people ragging on them. Thanks again for your inputs.

Madman

[Rags]

Hi Madman,

If you still have IRQ sharing between the G400 and your SCSI card, then you might want to try to separate them. Get the G400 on its own IRQ, and see where it puts you.

Rags

[Kruzin]

everettes-
"I should not, and will not, disable half of the features on my machine to get this card to work. That's a ridiculous request."

My suggestions had nothing to do with getting the card to work right. Simply some ideas to speed up your boots. There is no real reason to run scandisk every time your system crashes. As long as you scan once a week or so, you are fine. It scans automatically for those people who don't know to do this.

And the deletion of .chk files also has nothing to do with the card running. I was just saying there is no reason to keep those files. Delete them to clean up your root directory.

[Madman]

Hi Rags,

I'm going to re-install again this weekend, so I'll try that then. Hopefully it'll be hassle-free (crosses fingers). I'll let you know in a couple of days. Thanks.

Madman

[everettes]

I understand that scandisk doesn't need to run, and that the .chk files can be deleted, which I've been doing.

But should I have to disable it be happy with my card? Isn't that hiding the problems?I've been deleting the files but that's quite the nuisance to have to clean the directory after each boot.

I come from a day when improper shut downs WITHOUT scandisk cause problems popping up all over the place. It's hard for me to accept that the CONSTANT reboots are in no way harmful to this machine or hard drive and data.

Like I've said, take a step back and look at all I've been told to disable and\or change and\or swap just to get a card to work the way it should. Seriously, I'm actually chuckling now, it's become a war with a friggin piece of silicon! LOL

And I paid $100 for this! LOL

Seriously, I'm sarcastic but in a very good mood.
BTW, Mercury told me that the shaking( hard enough to make your head bob fore and aft) was just the anti-lock brakes. Yeah, right. I pulled the wheels to find BLUE-BURNT Rotors. HaHa, shame on me. I was in doubt when I noticed the mechanic only had about 60% of his teeth.

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[Rags]

Hi everettes,

With modern AGP cards (TNT/TNT2/ATI Rage128), IRQ sharing can sometimes be a hassle, the G400 does not stand alone in this. It has to do with how much the card needs attention on it's IRQ. If you are sharing its IRQ with another device, such as your SCSI, then you are, more times than not, going to have some problems (lockups, pausing, performance issues, display problems, etc.) No one is asking you to disable your SCSI card, just move it. Why does it have to be in PCI slot one? If it's because of cable length, then I suggest you purchase a longer cable, because you will be better off moving it. I am sure that this is the root of your problems.

Rags