New Drivers on Matrox FTP

[DuRaNgO]

Matrox Millennium G450 DualHead PCI

cool!

[Randy Simons]

Does anybody know how I can hack my own resolution settings in PD 6.14? With 6.06 I used the ResolutionManager w2k to hack a resolution of 1400x1050 into the drivers, ideal for my 19"

But with PD6.14 that's not possible anymore. Perhaps there are some ways doing it by making use of the custom monitor setting files (.mpr files) but I can't find an example of such a file...

Any ideas?

Btw, why isn't such a tool build into PowerDesk??

[Surfwienix]

why aren't the new drivers in the "latest drivers" section ????????????????

[This message has been edited by Surfwienix (edited 14 September 2000).]

[Gurm]

Yes, the blend modes are fixed. According to my sources they were fixed shortly after we got into that big spitting war about how broken the OpenGL implementation was... but of course I wasn't supposed to say anything THEN, and it takes forever to get the changes into a driver release. Heh.

- Gurm

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[Maggi]

Originally posted by dZeus:
what do you mean exactly?

the shadow problem? that was fixed already with the 5.10 drivers and 'optimize for accuracy' in the MTST util 2.0 version.

or do you mean something else?

In Q3's driver info you get a readout of the ICD version along with all supported GL extensions and I thought there could have been some new entries, but I wasn't sure about that and I don't have Q3 here at work ...

Originally posted by Surfwienix:
why aren't the new drivers in the "latest drivers" section ????????????????

[This message has been edited by Surfwienix (edited 14 September 2000).]

Just because these are certified to fullfill MS standards and usually this is a very time consuming process (certification).
This means that normally the 'latest drivers' are faster and more mature than certified ones.

Cheers,
Maggi

[2Whyzzi]

Originally posted by Maggi:
Just because these are certified to fullfill MS standards and usually this is a very time consuming process (certification).
This means that normally the 'latest drivers' are faster and more mature than certified ones.

Sure, but then why give the Certified drivers a higher revision number?

I don't pretend to know anything (cause I don't) I would tend to think that this "certified" driver release is probably to appease the 'business class' masses who purchase a G450 and will only use Microsoft "Certified" driver. But if it isn't the latest, (again I ask) why the higher revision number?

2Whyzzi

[Maggi]

Sorry, I don't understand the numbering scheme from Matrox either and I'm trying since years ...

[Damien Green]

To be honest I would prefere certified drivers over other releases, they may be a little older, (the revision number here seems to contradict this) but I'm perfectly happy to loose a few fps if it means more stability - over the past months I've had my fair share of problems with beta drivers (mostly from Creative) so a certified driver release is always welcome - at least they've had stringent testing.

[flenn]

OK, I've been waiting and waiting so I finally just decided to do it myself .

3DMark2K default benchmark with driver 6.0 - 3392
3DMark2K default benchmark with driver 6.04 - 3389

I haven't played around with OGL at all but it looks like no real difference in D3D.

[Spooon69]

Could somebody make a G200 install.inf for these drivers? Thanks.

[DentyCracker]

I Can E-mail you one later.
On second thought I no longer have the machine that it was on. I should be able to remake it but won't have a G200 to test it on

[paulcs]

Beta drivers and uncertified drivers are frequently two different things. All beta drivers might be uncertified but not all uncertified drivers are beta.

I can't speak with any real authority about the W2K drivers, certified or uncertified, since I only use a G200 and haven't noticed great difference in terms of stability from driver set to driver set. I don't really push this system.

However, I've seen certified Windows 98 drivers that were not only slower, but less stable than the uncertified drivers that were released beforehand. I believe this happened around the time of either the PD 5.25 or 5.30 drivers. If memory serves me correctly, because the certification process was so lengthly, the cerified driver set Matrox released afterwards was far older than and contained none of the fixes in the certified set.

I doubt certification process involves any rigorous stability testing. I believe the certification standards involve interface and control issues. For instance, Microsoft will not certify drivers with an option to disable Direct3D Vsync. That's why you have to hack the registry or use a separate utility.

I also believe Matrox had to remove the built in uninstaller from the PD 5.XX driver sets because of some arcane certification issue that had nothing to do with its effectiveness.

What's good for Microsoft (or Intel) and OEM's like Dell and Gateway is not necessarily good for for the end user. In fact, I've found the opposite to be true. For instance, the AMR slot and integrated sound have done nothing to enhance my life.

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[This message has been edited by paulcs (edited 14 September 2000).]

[Randy Simons]

Why do you want a g200.inf file? Just run the setup, worked fine here.

[Vic]

Me too, G200 installed 'out of the box'!

Vic

[Surfwienix]

Originally posted by paulcs:
I also believe Matrox had to remove the built in uninstaller from the PD 5.XX driver sets because of some arcane certification issue that had nothing to do with its effectiveness.

but the new (certified) 6.14.051 (6.04 whatever) driver has still the pd6-uninstaller built-in!



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>> Surfwienix <<

My System:

AMD K6-2/400 non-o/c
Epox MVP3C-M Super7 (VIA 4.24)
128MB SDRAM(PC100)
Matrox Millennium G400 MAX
(PD 6.14.051 Certified + TGL 1.3 + DX 7a) AGP2x/256MB @IRQ11(not sharing) non-o/c
Terratec DMX Sound-System
6,4GB Maxtor HDD (UDMA33)
ASUS 50x-CDROM (UDMA33)
Realtek 8019 Ethernet (ISA)
Creatix HAM V.90 Modem
19" Monitor CTX-VL950T (95khz)
Windows 98SE