No G800 Till Next Summer.....

[Zyn]

www.3dchipset.com has a post briefly touching upon firing squads g800 waitings.

Spam not intended

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[rylan]

Hmm. Just though of something with the talk about Matrox design engineers being lures away to other companies (like NVidia).
Those guys should be under a non-disclosure clause (of course) AND a non-compete clause. The first one is an industry standard, and most companies have a non-compete clause so you can't go and work for a competitor until a certain timeframe (like 2 years or something) has expired. I'd be surprised if M didn't have their engineers sign a non-compete form when they came on board, since that prevents this kind of thing from happening.

[Salmonius]

That's why M and nv are in courts. It would be funny if M sued the former employers and be awarded their shares of nvidia.

It makes me sad to purchase nvidia equipment and by that supporting their behavior, but I feel like the choice just isn't there. Except for ATI, but I like the competition between the different nvidia vendors. At home it's now nv but at work we only buy M.

[Galvin]

Isn't Matrox located in Canada, unless Nvidia is in Canada, I don't see how Canadian citizen can go to another country and work in that country without being a citizen of that country ?

[Rags]

Gurm,

No, you don't have to do it that way if you use powerdesk to customize each display mode you plan on using in games.

Rags

[dZeus]

Galvin... HUH????

You think you can only work in the country you are citizen of???? LOL!

[Vic20]

Apologies to those who live in the Southern Hemisphere, I'll correct things straight away...

..The G800 will be out this Winter!!

Now that sounds MUCH better!!

[cerb]

Vic20: Nah, I preferred it before when everyone was saying "next summer" cause that's only a few days away.

Cerb

[tuco]

i just wish matrox would let us know, instead of all these rumours. if we have to wait until march next year, fine, just fecking tell us, at least then, money i have put away for this card i can spend on a new printer etc...

[IceStorm]

Does it really matter?

Build a separate machine for gaming, drop in a GeForce 2 Ultra, and be done with it.

My main work box will have a G400 MAX at its heart until the next Matrox part comes out. My gaming machine will probably see half a dozen cards between now and then. I just went from a V5-5500 to the Ultra (5500's too slow). I'll probably go to a Rampage and/or NV20 when it's released, then whatever the Spring/Fall refreshes are, then next year's parts. From the sounds of things, Matrox isn't getting their next 3D performance-oriented cards out until the end of 2001 or the begining of 2002.

Other than not being able to play games, what's wrong with the G4xx line? More power to Matrox if they can capture trading desktops - have you ever seen trading floors? They're wall to wall to wall computers, with flat panels everwhere you look. Can you imagine how much MONEY is in those floors? If they steal major contracts from the likes of Appian, they'll be rolling in dough.

Right now, I'd think kick-ass W2K drivers and full hardware video overlay support on the second display would be their main focus for the G4xx, alongside the G200 multimonitor cards (or a G400 QuadHead). Get the best drivers out that can be made for W2K, and be happy with the corporate market. Add a notebook version of the G450, and you have a business paradise - unified drivers across the enterprise (something that nVidia seems to be gunning for).

Just my $0.02

[paulcs]

I agree with Icestorm 100%. If you can afford it, two systems are the way to go.

And the Ultra is just a remarkable gaming board. The Unreal engine has always been NVIDIA's achilles heel, but the Ultra doesn't care. Brute force works. Unfortunately, it's outrageously expensive.

I still want a G800 for Xmas!

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[dZeus]

Icestorm:

somewhere I read the lack of overlay support for the second head is due to a Windows OS limitation... well... they could be wrong of course... don't know for sure.

Current G400 Win2k drivers are quite near kick-ass anyway

[PC001]

G800 will be announced in March
3-5 low-end to high-end cards

PC

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[Joel]

It just may be that Matrox has realized that the business market has been and will always be their mainstay. That's not to say that they are giving up on 3D, that would be stupid, but it will mean that gaming will not be their main focus. I'm sure that, just like the G200 and the G400, this new card, G800 or whatever, will be the best business solution on the market and will be able to hold it's own againist the other 3D cards at the time of it's release.

Joel

[paulcs]

I suggest Ant rename the Matrox Gaming Forum to something like the "Matrox Content Creation Forum" or the "Matrox Word Processing Forum."

I can remember when 3DLabs appeared to be so unnerved by the Matrox's 3D potential, they posted a bunch of outrageous fabrications about the G400 on their website. The claims they made were so blatantly false, they removed them a day or two later. What a diffence a year (or two) makes.

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net