Constant Crashing with G450

[Dirk the Daring]

Ok, the VFAT problem-- I don't know where it came from, but it didn't go away until I re-installed windows. Again.

So now I'm back at square 1. If the matrox drivers are installed, I get a BSD on startup of windows, and anytime a program is run. It's interesting that this doesn't happen the first couple of times that windows is run-- perhaps it has to do with the only game that gets installed on this machine -- Asheron's Call?

Oh, and yes, putting the number9 card in gets rid of the BSDs.

[windigo]

this could be a problem with windows (LOL)
try seeing in safe mode the win.ini file and look for something you know isnt there and remove it,plus you could try looking in your registry since you bring up a vxd error
it might be a static vxd error, ie nothing there or just spaces

look here
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD
delete those entries that are empty and reboot
plus when fidiling in the belly of the beast you might wanna back up your registry


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MSI K7TPro2 Duron 750@900
256Ram G400DH32mb
Pioneer SCSI 16xDVD

[windigo]

did a search at m$' knowledge base
with that vxd error you gave and shows it to be a startup problem, there are a number of ways to fix it, i think i gave the most reasonable ones but it also says to by-pass your autoexec and config files and if it starts up properly then theres where the prob is.
autoexec and confgi files are empty but you got a sb16 so go through and rem each line and then start bringing each line back until the problem rears its ugly head then repor back here

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MSI K7TPro2 Duron 750@900
256Ram G400DH32mb
Pioneer SCSI 16xDVD

[paulcs]

Not to undermine windigo's theory here -- my knowledge of the original VIA Apollo Pro chipset is limited at best -- but I'm not convinced this isn't a resource problem. Dirk, is an IRQ assigned when the G450 is installed? What IRQ does the G450 end up on when the drivers are installed?

I think this is an early VIA implementation of AGP. (We're in Joel territory here. I'm guessing.) There might be power issues as well, as motherboard manufacturers did a poor job of implementing the standard.

This is an Epox board, by the way, with a particularly strange layout.

http://www.epox.com/common/images/mo...d/ep-v370b.jpg

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[Peter Aragon]

Hi Dirk

What helped with me and with other customers of mine is setting the voltage of the processor a bit higher. Seems that the g450 is very power-hungry. Default bios settings are 1.65 or 1.7v, setting it to 1.85 for 800mhz+ systems did the trick for me

Good luck,
Peter

ps. please don't set it too high, I warned you...

[Ali]

Looking at that picture that Paulc put up, that mobo must be VERY old. It has connectors for both AT and ATX power suplies. The only mobos Ive seen with that setup are very late Pentium classic ones. (Ie P233MMX).

I know some LX mobos had trouble suppling enough power to the AGP slot for some video cards, and that was at least 2 years ago.

Look here: http://www.asus.com/Products/Techref...nt-rework.html

I know thats not your mobo, but its one I had, and shows that even for a TNT1 you can have power problems.

I would first suspect your mobo, then your power supply.

Ali

[dZeus]

hehe... you just brought up some memories!

I once had a DFI P5BV3+ motherboard, and it had AT and ATX type connectors too... when all my devices were hooked up to it with an AT power supply, it ran stable... as soon as I used an ATX supply (even rated 30Watts more), it would crash a lot in 3D games

[DuRaNgO]

Paul is right, if pnp is set to yes in the bios, then it may be sharing upon startup and drivers loaded
jim