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**Guyver** · 25 March 2001, 23:15

G400MAX, Non OC'd.
PIII-1Ghz @ 1035 (138FSB) on a BX Chipset @ AGP2X.

1024x32 - most features enabled, and very playable.

UT, Q3, STV Elite Forces, Half-life, etc...

I'm not the best player, but in STVEF, I get my share of kills and wins. For a 2 year old, she still seems to be an all-around thoroughbred (sp?) to me...

Oh yeah, forgot - Mech 4, and Star Lancer as well... Great image quality, and speed on tap (as long as the processor pushes it out)

Guyv (That's a definite YES BTW)

[This message has been edited by Guyver (edited 26 March 2001).]

**kaasboer** · 26 March 2001, 06:29

Hi,

my machine is an Athlon TB 1GHz, G400Max, W2K and my favourite game is Quake 2 (it still rocks). The Max is fast enough for playing Q2 in 1024x768x32, but I usually prefer 800x600x16.

Just for fun I tested a TNT2 Ultra for a few days. With normal settings it was slightly slower than the G400Max. I o'clocked the TNT2U, did some tweaking and it ran very fast, almost 15% faster than the G400Max. But: Q2 looked horrible, so I reinstalled the Matrox.

So, yes, I'm still happy with my Matrox, and as long as I keep playing Q2, I can wait for a new card from big M.

cu

**rylan** · 26 March 2001, 07:57

You know.. I hate to say it, but I am really not very satisified with my MAX anymore. When I got he card, I was thrilled, and I still like the image quality.. but it just doesn't have the power for newer games that I try to play. And some games that are coming out over the next few months will look like a slideshow on the MAX unless you turn it down to 640x480.

dq · 26 March 2001, 10:00

Question to those who are not satisfied with your Matrox: Why grunt and rant, change your Matrox to something else that you think that will be better than your current card. (i.e. Kyro, Radeon, Geforce)

**Elie** · 26 March 2001, 10:16

I tried ATI and it sucks, sticking with Matrox all the way!
To me it's the best 2D/Dual Head I've seen to date, and I use it a lot.

Elie

**Snake-Eyes** · 26 March 2001, 10:39

No, I did, and yes, in that order, heh.

No, toward the end of the last year I began to become a little disenchanted with the overall performance of my G400Max in games compared to other products on the market.

So..
I DID buy an Elsa Gladiac 32MB, which I shoved into the machine I use primarily for gaming, and then I put the G400Max into my wife's system in place of the old V770U that used to reside in it.

I AM still satisfied with the Max, I just won't select it as my first choice for games. I've always loved the vibrance and overall clarity that the Max has exhibited, and none of that has changed. It's still more than useful for gaming in a pinch. I still want it around for it's versatility and especially for use for editing the pics and videos I get with my digital camera, scanner, and video camera, since it's the best card I've yet seen for such tasks. (I know, I know.. the ATI cards are good for this too, but nothing, and I mean nothing, has yet beat the image quality of my Matrox card!)

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Ace

**GT98** · 26 March 2001, 11:09

Well this is my story about me and Matrox...When I was putting together my current system back in November of 1998 with its Celeron 300A in it, I selected the G200 Marvel for its TV in and mutlimedia capities that it offered after seen my Fathers ATI All-in-wonder card (think it was a Rage 128 or something), but I didn't want the crumy driver support that the ATI card had. For my 3D gaming I got myself a Voodoo2 SLI setup, which ment that I had probally the best All around Video cards that Money could buy.

About 6 months later I heard that Matrox was coming out with a G400 card that would run faster then the Videosetup that I had at the time. I was pleased with Matrox driver support and I did the waiting game like everyone else did for the G400Max to come out. I was very pleased with it till this past year. I had all intentions on waiting for the next gen Matrox product, but after hearing all the rumors about the G800 coming out since last summer(!), I was a bit fed up...though an odd turn of events I winded up getting myself a Radeon AIW card last December. I'm more or less happy with it, though I run into driver problems here and there with it in Win9X with games. I've been planning on getting a new computer with the lastest AMD Chip in it but I wont buy it till Matrox has something I can stick in it thats faster then their MAX I have that is collecting dust....thats one good thing about waiting I can get a hella fast CPU for cheap by the time Matrox comes out with something..

The G200 Marvel is now in my fathers Secondary system a P3-500 and my G400Max is waiting for me to find a good home to put it in. I'm not planning on getting rid of either of them for a while either. I'm not mad at Matrox...just a bit dissapointed that we haven't heard the least about a new Chip or what ever from them in nearly 2 years! They will always have me a customer as long as they don't forget about the gaming end of the market....

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Abit BH6 rev 1.0 Celeron 2-566@877mhz,256mb RAM,ATI Radeon AIW,SB Live! with Klipsch Promedia v2-400, Optiquest V95 19in montor, Asus 40x CD-ROM, Aopen 5x DVD-ROM,HP9110i 8x4x32 CD-RW,SupraMax 56k modem,WinME on Western Digital 30GB drive

**Tom** · 26 March 2001, 12:58

I'm quite happy with my Matrox product...
and I'm a gamer first and foremost...
1024x768 suites me fine...for now.

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Matrox G400MAX
PIII 616
Asus P2B-L
128MB
Quantum Fireball KX 27.3
ADI G66
Sound Blaster Live!
Motorola CyberSURFR
Pioneer DVD-103S

**fleabus2** · 26 March 2001, 16:06

Hi:
Always been happy with Matrox. I'm on my third card. I had the original PCI Mystique, a G200 Mystique AGP and now the Max.

Monitor Setups

32MB Matrox G400Max AGP x2/x4

VGA1: ViewSonic P817 21" Shadow Mask .26mm dp
-usual 1600x1200 16bit 85Hz Small Fonts
-360MHz Video Input Bandwidth

VGA2a): ViewSonic 17PS-2 17" Shadow Mask .25mm dp
-usual 1024x768 16bit 85Hz Small Fonts
-135MHz Video Input Bandwidth

VGA2b) S-video Out to 36" Sony Wega XBR400
-usual 1024x768 60Hz NTSC (HD ready)

My sig has the rest.

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Win98SE clean; DirectX 8.0a; G400Max G4-MMDH4A32GR (PD6.50.008; bios 1.9) VGA1: 21" ViewSonic P817; VGA2: 17" ViewSonic 17PS-2/ 36" Sony FD Trinitron Wega XBR400 NTSC TV; PIIIE 800MHz Slot 1; 512MB PC133 @100MHz CAS2; Asus P3B-F rev1.04 (ACPI bios 1005); Promise Ultra66 PCI controller; 2x30GB Maxtor DiamondMax +40 7200RPM ATA-66 UDMA4 HDs; Pioneer DVD-104S IDE Slot Load 10X/40X UDMA2; Plextor PX-W8432Ti 8/4/32 IDE CD-R/RW PIO4/DMA2; SB Live Full to Pioneer 901 Pro-Logic receiver; D-Link DFE-538TX PCI NIC/Alcatel ADSL modem; 3Com/USR 56k(V.90)#568602 PnP External serial Faxmodem; Logitech Cordless iTouch PS/2 Keyboard; Logitech MouseMan Wheel Optical PS/2 mouse; Thrustmaster FCS Mark 1 Joystick; etc.

**IceStorm** · 26 March 2001, 21:19

I don't either, and I have a GeForce 2 Ultra in my gaming machine.

I'm very satisfied with my G400 MAX. I've had it over 18 months now (September 2, 1999) and it will continue to serve as my non-gaming machine's display until another Matrox part takes its place. The new W2K drivers are great.

I've also several older cards (Millenium II's, G200, Millennium 1's). They are in just about every machine but the gaming machine.

The next step: seeing if XFree86 will compile and run a PCI Millennium II in my new Sun Blade 100 (33Mhz PCI slots - I gotta try it).

**Ad_B** · 27 March 2001, 00:24

I'm running my G400 Max on a 15 inch NEC 3V @ 1024x768 60 Hz. Damn I need a new monitor.

I don't game much, but have the odd flutter on Q3A, which I run at max settings 800x600x16 (Bilinear).

I get about 74fps average on Demo127.

Any higher resolution or colour depth and the slow down becomes too much in busy times.

I'm running a 1 Ghz T-Bird @ 1.22 Ghz + 256Mb RAM @ 148 Mhz Cas 2. So it's defintely the G400 Max that's the bottle neck.

I'm happy enough with the G400 Max, but I'm upgrading to probably a Kyro II or Radeon (or whatevers suitable) in a few months.

az · 27 March 2001, 00:40

Ad_B how can you live with such a fast machine and such a crappy monitor? i've had a 17" for over four years now and i never regretted buying it..

and i am not satisfied with my matrox card, because a millennium 1 isn't really great for playing fps games

hopefully i'll be able to afford a new pc this summer.. (and hopefully i can put a g8000maxx3 in )

AZ

[This message has been edited by az (edited 27 March 2001).]

**Angry_Dann** · 27 March 2001, 01:33

I'll never buy Matrox again. I have a G200 under Win2k, and it's an absolute disaster, even in 2D (you should see the stutter of flash, vectorgraphics programmes) - it's absolutely worthless... I had a Nvidia card on loan to compare and the difference is unbelievable... I'm surprised Matrox is still around... they ****ed their customers real good - they deserve to go down.

**Vic** · 27 March 2001, 02:09

Still using a G200 with RR-G in my Duron @ 1030 Mhz Win 95se. It's still perfectly adequate for 95% of the things I do with my PC such as video editing. Picture quality is of Matrox's usual unbeatability.

On of the additional advantages of owning an older Matrox card is that the drivers are rock solid in everyday use. Dunno about Win2k though!

Vic

**Angry_Dann** · 27 March 2001, 02:41

On of the additional advantages of owning an older Matrox card is that the drivers are rock solid in everyday use.

Excuse me ? You are aware of Matrox terrible fowl up regarding drivers ? Especially in the 3D arena... Matrox cards are useless.

Dunno about Win2k though!

Well, as far as win2k is concerned... the drivers can't even decently perform 2D, I can't display flash, use CorelDraw or Illustrator, can't play movies (except at 10x10 resolution), Photoshop is reasonable (but not what it should be)

What I hate most about Matrox is the incredible amount of lies and propaganda they use (more than 400 awards ??? For what, for ripping people off) to cover up their mistakes...

No more Badrox for me. I'm really sorry they didn't go bust. Nobody deserves this kind of treatment.

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