Parhelia!!!

[Ant]

If the Parhelia turns out to be real and if those specs are correct then that would be my best assumption as to how they would do it. I don't think the EDRAM scenario holds water in Matrox's case.

[xortam]

Matrox quantum leap

I wouldn't look at recent Matrox Graphics products as a trend indicator as to what to expect next. My take on their developments is that the G550 was an abortion. Matrox was hard at work on the G800 and ran across some insurmountable problems with the design and resources. Management decided to cut their losses and abort the development and ship an abbreviated product that became known as the G550. The decision was to shift their focus to a new design which took from what they learned in the G800 project but added to it new requirements based on the ever moving market. This new card will be a quantum leap from the G550.

... one man's view.

[Biggs]

"Do I believe that snippet? Hell no! I would not bet my life on it. But for me it's more worth than a rumour, neither it is a certified fact, just take it as it is, an indication of what is going in Matrox'es R&D labs and wait to know if Matrox really ships or not something like that."

-Vlip


This quote from the Ars thread says it all.


Exciting times are ahead of us!

[superfly]

Originally posted by Ant
If the Parhelia turns out to be real and if those specs are correct then that would be my best assumption as to how they would do it. I don't think the EDRAM scenario holds water in Matrox's case.

There goes that ugly word again...assumption.. .


I for one,don't think there's any harm in revealing that particular part since even if users know about it as well as the final bandwith figure,it all comes down to how it's going to be implemented exactly(single 256 bit,dual 128's,etc...)and what type of other bandwith saving features will be implemented on the chip itself before we can draw any type of potential performance figures...


Vigilant's already revealed that it's T.L unit will be much more powerfull than any current chip,including the GF4 which itself isn't too shabby at 136 million polys/sec,even games like Doom3 and unreal warfare(the game beyond unreal 2 btw..),won't even use 1/10th of that in their polygon budgets...


If people in the know want to have a little more credibility towards others,it woudn't hurt to reveal a few extra features,especially if the anouncement date is so close anyhow...

[Helevitia]

If people in the know want to have a little more credibility towards others,it woudn't hurt to reveal a few extra features,especially if the anouncement date is so close anyhow...

This is such crap. What is the point of signing an NDA if you are going to f*ck it up by telling people what you know? Credibility comes from years of respect for which Ant has proven time and time again. Sounds like you are just trying to bait him and others to give out more information. Gawd, I am getting tired of all of this negativity. Why can't people just accept the infomration for what it's worth and be happy about it. They could have told us nothing and we'd all still be sitting here with our thumbs in our butts wondering if we should be upgrading to a GF4 or ATI. I, for one, am extremely greatful that the info was released and I hope to god they announce the card..."The S word"....so everyone will quit whining. Sheesh!

Dave

[Nuno]

Nothing like a good next-card rumor to see some mini-Murcers registering and half the hardware comunity linking to www.murc.ws It remembers me the pre-G200 days...

I hope Matrox does release a breakthought card like the G400 was on its days.

[Kosh Naranek]

to late it's blown .... the fuse that is ... !!!


I want it and I want it N O W !!!

But I will be a good boy and wait until it arrives !!!

[dZeus]

Originally posted by Helevitia


This is such crap. What is the point of signing an NDA if you are going to f*ck it up by telling people what you know? Credibility comes from years of respect for which Ant has proven time and time again. Sounds like you are just trying to bait him and others to give out more information. Gawd, I am getting tired of all of this negativity. Why can't people just accept the infomration for what it's worth and be happy about it. They could have told us nothing and we'd all still be sitting here with our thumbs in our butts wondering if we should be upgrading to a GF4 or ATI. I, for one, am extremely greatful that the info was released and I hope to god they announce the card..."The S word"....so everyone will quit whining. Sheesh!

Dave

Thumbs up to that

[Macbeth]

G550 might not be an aborition...

Hi guys,

I'm new in here but I like what I read.

One thing tho... Why does every one keep saying that the G800 is dead and that the G550 is it's shadowy replacement?

Like it was said earlier, Nvidia didn't release the GeForce3 engine on schedual because of technical problemes it had, it took about six months to fix it. In the mean time, they released other product to keep their foot hold in the market, GeForce PRO and Ultra, and when the problems have been fixed, they released the long awaited GeForce3. Nvidia did so probably because their only real revenue is from gaming cards sells and they didn't want to lose face and market shares.

On the other hand, Matrox have their foot old in the 2d profetionnal market...

So they might just have done like Nvidia did, because of some maybe greater thechnical problems than expected, to avoid to great money and market loses, they migth have quickly desined a chip, the G550, from the work done in their other main project, the G800, targeted to their main revenue market the pro 2d market and in the mean time, they are still working on the other main project, the G800... or the Parhelia... I think that in the life cycle of a project, continuous chages and improvements are logical, maybe even redesign. Or they might have forsaw that the original G800 thechnology wasn't perfect and used it to produce a new Gxx series card before reorienting the project towards something beter?

At least it sounds logical to me. We must not forget that Matrox is a very experienced and professional compeny.

It is not because so many companies feel they have to rush their product in, even when it is not ready, that every company MUST do so.

Any way, you are welcome to give your opinion on that!

Gxis!

Macbeth

[dZeus]

if you check the G550 driver contents (opening them up in an editor), and you'll see that there are a lot of features in them that aren't available. Maybe that's a hint of what the G550 should have been able to do (i.e. the G800 true capabilities before it got 'aborted').

Further more I would estimate that most of those features are implemented in the G550's core already, broken or not. It takes a lot of redesign to change the chip layout, way more than what I think (understood) they used to drop the G800 and change it into the G550.

Though of course you can see it as a 'interim' product, otherwise they wouldn't have released it, would they?

[Macbeth]

Or maybe the G550 is just an lower end version and an apetiser to keep afloat...

I don't know but maybe.

It must take at least three years to desine a complete new board. In the mean time, they must survive...

[dZeus]

ehm, isn't that what P is all about?

forget the G800, how difficult it may be for you

[Greebe]

G550= a stripped down version of the G800... this has nothing todo with what's coming

[Technoid]

Originally posted by Greebe
G550= a stripped down version of the G800... this has nothing todo with what's coming

Then what would the G800's spec had been if it would hawe been released??

[GNEP]

hehe - we are so hooked on speculation that attention has turned to a chip that might have once nearly existed, but not any more...



It would be interesting to know though!