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Originally posted by UncleSam
Ant, we obtain all our info from someone who also do not sign NDA.
You have no shame, but should feel very ashamed.VigilAnt
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I'm new here, but I think it's fine if he wants to post something in the forums that is already out on the web...System Specs:
Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT
Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck!
May all 0ur base someday be belong to you!
Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe.
And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us.
For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3s 4ever and ever, 4m3n.
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VigilAnts original post was a collection of rumours circulating within the industry at that time. They were rumours and could have been true or wild speculation. That was clearly stated at the time At that time as your memory recalls I stated I was not under any NDA with Matrox and that was true at that time. I fail to see what bearing that has on anything. When speaking to Matrox we discussed rumours and it was agreed that my commenting on rumours was not a breach of NDA, what most definitely was was to post any information that had clearly come from a NDA breach.
IBXT have received extremely detailed information they knew or subsequently knew to be from a breached NDA. Their rhetoric that because they are not under NDA they can post anything they like is true but does that make it the right thing to do? They have posted the information in full without the slightest regard so they can scoop it as they know everyone else is under NDA until the 14th and the scoop is all they care about.
Originally posted by rubank
Ant, this thread started as a consequence of VigilAnts article on your front page. IIRC you said somewhere around that time that you were not under NDA, but didn´t the information in VigiAnts article come from sources under NDA? And you have since strongly emphasized that the info was/is correct.
If so, what is the principal difference from iXBT publishing the info they´ve got?
rubank
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I'll repeat my question as you seem to want to avoid it. When you received that information did you know it had come from a breached NDA? If you did what were you reasons for posting it? If you didn't know you do now and will you remove it and apologise to Matrox?
Originally posted by UncleSam
Ant, we obtain all our info from someone who also do not sign NDA.
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Originally posted by BuddMan
I'm new here, but I think it's fine if he wants to post something in the forums that is already out on the web...
We are talking directly to the person who posted the leak on the web.
VigilAntVigilAnt
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OIC. Well, that's another issue I guess. I dunno, if they didn't break NDA then we wouldn't be seeing these specs, etc. And this seems to be good for Matrox, but I guess it is against Matrox's trust.System Specs:
Gigabyte 8INXP - Pentium 4 2.8@3.4 - 1GB Corsair 3200 XMS - Enermax 550W PSU - 2 80GB WDs 8MB cache in RAID 0 array - 36GB Seagate 15.3K SCSI boot drive - ATI AIW 9700 - M-Audio Revolution - 16x Pioneer DVD slot load - Lite-On 48x24x48x CD-RW - Logitech MX700 - Koolance PC2-601BW case - Cambridge MegaWorks 550s - Mitsubishi 2070SB 22" CRT
Our Father, who 0wnz heaven, j00 r0ck!
May all 0ur base someday be belong to you!
Give us this day our warez, mp3z, and pr0n through a phat pipe.
And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
just as we teach n00bz when they act lame on us.
For j00 0wn r00t on all our b0x3s 4ever and ever, 4m3n.
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No, it definitely isn't good for Matrox. They would probably have said all the same stuff on Tuesday, but they would be able to explain things such as the 3fps on 3DMark, etc. There's a reason companies like to announce their own stuff.Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.
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Ant.
We know that our source doesn't break NDA. May be he found this info occasionally on the web. Relax!
If Matrox contacts us and we deal to have relations and sign NDA we'll remove this article immediately.
Before that - we do not have any criminal in our doing's
Last edited by UncleSam; 12 May 2002, 13:30./Alexander Medvedev,
Technical Director,
iXBT.com (www.ixbt.com),
Digit-Life (www.digit-life.com).
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Yes you do. You know that info was covered by NDA. Therefore, it's not legal for you to post it. It doesn't matter if you got it from a "friend of a friend" or not.Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.
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Wombat
We dont know that.
_Nowhere_ in materials was written that it's under NDA or SECRET or can be published only after launch date.
And i am don't receive anything from matrox about that.
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/Alexander Medvedev,
Technical Director,
iXBT.com (www.ixbt.com),
Digit-Life (www.digit-life.com).
And low life scum sucking mole/Alexander Medvedev,
Technical Director,
iXBT.com (www.ixbt.com),
Digit-Life (www.digit-life.com).
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Looks like it was just pulled... Matrox Smack Down?"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss
"Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain
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Hey look at that flying pig. Come on we're not stupid, just be honest, you guys have been online long enough to know better than to pull these kinds of stunts you're not fooling anyone.
Originally posted by UncleSam
Ant.
We know that our source doesn't break NDA. May be he found this info occasionally on the web. Relax!
If Matrox contacts us and we deal to have relations and sign NDA we'll remove this article immediately.
Before that - we do not have any criminal in our doing's
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article pulled
Really? Too late. I've already got it archived ... in fact, its still up on my screen. I wouldn't be surprised if you soon see other sites posting copies of this article.
I'm still looking forward to the official launch date and all the hoopla. I've got to make sure to get to bed early so I can wake up in time for the launch. I hope you've got your review ready to go after launch Mike.<TABLE BGCOLOR=Red><TR><TD><Font-weight="+1"><font COLOR=Black>The world just changed, Sep. 11, 2001</font></Font-weight></TR></TD></TABLE>
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Originally posted by Wombat
No, it definitely isn't good for Matrox. They would probably have said all the same stuff on Tuesday, but they would be able to explain things such as the 3fps on 3DMark, etc. There's a reason companies like to announce their own stuff."And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz
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