Parhelia - no flame - makes me wonder

[Indiana]

Yes, minimum fps and the delta between min and avg/max fps are definitely the most important things for smoothness.

A drop in framerate from 150 fps down to 30 fps IS very noticeably, a steady 35 fps with max. fps of 40-45fps is much preferable.

[TdB]

it also mattes how evenly distibuted the frames are, within the second, for example 99 frames the first 1/10th of the second, and 1 frame the last 9/10thf, the average is 100 fps, but it stutters like hell.

[Umfriend]

Greebe,

You lost me. Which assumption is totally baseless?

Umf

[Indiana]

Very true. We would need some additional parameter such as a "maximum latency between consecutive frames" to measure this.

[DukeP]

Originally posted by Indiana
Very true. We would need some additional parameter such as a "maximum latency between consecutive frames" to measure this.

Or we just need to play a few games and notice that things just seems smoother.

~~DukeP~~

[TdB]

Originally posted by DukeP

Or we just need to play a few games and notice that things just seems smoother.

~~DukeP~~

but then, we can´t brag about it.

[Wombat]

It's not just the time between frames, but the amount of change. I'm really starting to think that my nVidia card renders the same frame multiple times to boost fps, or something.

[The_King]

Why does it matter whether a card beats another card in speed or not. You either want a fast video card for one of 2 things:

1. Because all you care about is bragging rights. (the speed of the video card being inversely proportional to the size of you d!ck)

2. Because you want the highest details possible so that a game looks pretty.

Matrox has FAA and the best IQ by a long shot. What else needs to be said?.....

[Dr Mordrid]

Wombat;

It might be doing what AVI_IO does during a capture.

AVI_IO looks for drops then fills in the missing slot with the last captured frame. The NVIDIA drivers might do the same thing if the interframe latency is longer than expected.

Dr. Mordrid

[TdB]

hehe!
I was only joking
I don´t have time to brag, I just want to play my new games the way the are supposed to be played.

[notagain]

Greebe : I guess I wasnt clear in my post .... Or not TDB did get my point.

[notagain]

NB: I'm sorry I do not know haw you mesure your fps, I'm no big expert i use fraps (it give average value). the only thing i can tell was I was playng a game i found it smoth I mesured the fps it gave me 25fps, i decrease the resolution to the lowest and the game was awfull (very ugly) but the game play was so good ( i mesured : 44 fps) that i barely enjoy the 25fps game any longer.

[Rags]

MY BIG Q is: IF the required processing power required to do FAA was higher than the on to do FSAA (and therefor FAA could NOT be done one any Gforce chip) THE Parhelia Should be faster than the Nvidia chip in all cases.
As it doesnt seems to be the case... my conclusion is that FAA could be performed on Nvidia chips and will outperform Matrox's.

First, that's not a question. It's a statement. And it's completely wrong. FAA is done by the hardware on Parhelia. It has it's own hardware to do the calculations. Nothing nVidia has does it, so your statement is INCORRECT.

THE BIG Assuption I make is that the instruction set of NVIDIA chip allow to do the math for FAA. I have absolutly no idea
what are the instruction required for FAA nor FSAA.
Futhermore I have no clue on haw programmable GPU are...

ASSumption wrong. nVidia has no instruction set for doing FAA.

I'm seeking answers.... that was what my post was about.

No. You are making statements. In order to seek answers, one must ask questions.

You are the weakest link....goodbye!

Rags

[Rags]

60fps today is fine i agree
but 60fps today also means 30 fps in 3 or 4 month.

Parhelia excells in games where quad texturing is the norm. Throw in VS and PS and it stands heads and shoulders above.

Rags

[Dr Mordrid]

Originally posted by TDB
hehe!
I was only joking
I don´t have time to brag, I just want to play my new games the way the are supposed to be played.

I thought you might be, but I wasn't.

Dr. Mordrid