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  • #76
    Matrox did state what the cards would operate at. All cards that do not initialize at this speed are thus consider """broken"""
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    • #77
      Originally posted by R.Carter


      Maybe your card is defective. You card is not representative of all Parhelia cards since from this thread it does seem others are able to get their cards to run stable at the publicized clock speeds.

      You should try to RMA it first.
      /me slaps forehead

      Of course! I'll just RMA it and get another 217Mhz one
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      • #78
        Originally posted by UberLord


        /me slaps forehead

        Of course! I'll just RMA it and get another 217Mhz one
        or one that flickers worse...
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        • #79
          There are protection organism here in Canada for false advertising, there could be penalty, now you would have to prove it tough, not sure people outside of Quebec or Canada would gain much of this.

          As for a class-action lawsuit, I think the peep who would gain more from it are the lawyers... It would take years to be settled and would probably end nowhere.

          The best thing IMHO would be for everybody with the banding effect to RMA their card on and on till it get fixed...but then you're stuck with no card for quite a while...so it's still you the customer that loses.

          For my part, I was pissed at the way this has been done, so I sold my parhelia (i got a nice price initially so i didn't lost much $$).
          I'm pretty disapointed at Matrox who quote themselves high fidelity graphics and gives us a card with this unbearable banding effect, that they knew of, and most of all don't have the balls to come forward and say they screw and they'll fix it...
          Pretty disapointed too of some peep here that have access to info we don't have and still recommended it and quote it as having the BEST IMAGE QUALITY period...( well its true in 2d but in 3d if you get the banding shit its far from true...not to mention the unexcusable 2x AF only)
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          • #80
            Unfortunately i really don't have the money to pay for shipping to have the card RMA'd.

            And unfortunately i really don't wanna sell a card that has the banding issues, as its not something i wanna have come back and haunt me. To me my Parhelia is a broken part, and i pretty much refuse to sell a piece of hardware that is broken.
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            • #81
              And unfortunately i really don't wanna sell a card that has the banding issues, as its not something i wanna have come back and haunt me. To me my Parhelia is a broken part, and i pretty much refuse to sell a piece of hardware that is broken.
              That ethic is also bugging me. I'd sell it and buy something else, but if that person does anything with 3D then I'm basically cheating them by pawning them a defective item.

              Maybe I'll find someone who does 2D only.
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              • #82
                Well the guy I sold it was doin 2d app... and needed the multimonitor facility of the card, so i didn't screw if that is what you implied.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Ryu Connor

                  Maybe I'll find someone who does 2D only.
                  Those would be the Mystique and Millenium owners
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                  • #84
                    so i didn't screw if that is what you implied.
                    Nah, wasn't trying to imply that at all. Just expressing a concern.

                    And even if you did, so what? That's your call, not mine. You might be some sort of hardcore capitalist that believes in caveat emptor.
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                    • #85
                      yeah, its your business if you sell it and who you sell it too... working in the PC industry made me pretty much stopped caring about if someone else is screwing a customer...

                      didn't mean to imply anything tho... its not my business and i've seen people who buy rediculously high end components to do email only...

                      its just a personal preference, because if i sold the Parhelia it would probably not be to someone i know. And i think most of the people who would buy a Parhelia are looking for Professional level components.
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                      • #86
                        just as an update...

                        I started this thread over in the Matrox forums...

                        worth looking at...
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                        • #87
                          Ah - exactly the same response as the "banding" issue.

                          I say that Haig won't give any official answer aside from "investigating" or similar.

                          I'd love him to prove me wrong, but I'd say there's a greater chance of Reading FC winning promotion to the Premier League and winning it next season than getting an official action respone to this.
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                          • #88
                            I honestly believe that if Haig had an answer he would have given it to us. I suspect that management has been putting off any sort of resolution for this...
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                            • #89
                              "Later" is a powerful word in politics.
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                              • #90
                                2D only? It happens there too, just ask Maggi
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