Next Version Of Parhelia Revisited

[spadnos]

The future of Graphics Controllers ...

Originally posted by thop
hmm the question is will the p256 have the issues that p128 has fixed? and will it really be cheaper than the p128 is now? if both yes than this sounds like a good card to me.

oh and 512mb on a gfx card? 10 years back my trident had 512kb i'm seriously wonderning if we will have 512GB on a gfx card in 10 years. this sounds completely ridiculous today, but so did 512mb 10 years ago.

Well...
when you have dodeca-headed holographic, 24bits/color channel, triple-buffered, 128 bits of overlay (outerlay in a hologram ), floating point Z-buffer (w buffer in a hologram??? ), raytracing display controllers, 512GB may not be enough.

Plus the fact that DirectX5200 will be written in interpreted ActiveX-Java-C#.net code, which the card will compile on the fly (for each frame), will put a severe crunch on *only* 512GB cards. Sheesh.

And of course ATI will have the Radeon 9.92e+06 and and nVidia will have the GeForce-be-with-you 16201MxProTi with 1TB, just for fun

I will say this, though - no-one will ever need more than 640TB on their graphics cards...

[Kuba2k]

Re: The future of Graphics Controllers ...

Originally posted by spadnos

I will say this, though - no-one will ever need more than 640TB on their graphics cards...

Ups.... where I heard this???

[Muad'Dib]

I'm interested to know if this newly announced card will have the same problems (flickering screen, is it the faa thing that has yet to be fixed?, anything else not driver related that has been mentioned which I'm forgetting at the moment). Especially targeting this card to the high end users and professionals, that could SERIOUSLY hurt Matrox.

If anyone who may be able to comment on this can, that'd be nice. If not, that'd be nice too.

[VigilAnt]

Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup
Parhelia 256MB = US$599
TripleHead, DH-HF, FAA-16x, Dual-DVI, CAD drivers, AEC|VIZ

3DLabs WildCat II 5110 144MB = US$799
3DLabs WildCat VP870 128MB = US$699
Quadro 900XGL 128MB = US$900+
FireGL4 128MB = US$1000+

price look any better now?

The 3DLabs, Quadro, and FireGL ALL outperform the Parhelia in the 3D workstation by a good margin in most applications and situations. And your point would be?

VigilAnt

[VigilAnt]

Originally posted by Muad'Dib
I'm interested to know if this newly announced card will have the same problems (flickering screen, is it the faa thing that has yet to be fixed?, anything else not driver related that has been mentioned which I'm forgetting at the moment). Especially targeting this card to the high end users and professionals, that could SERIOUSLY hurt Matrox.

If anyone who may be able to comment on this can, that'd be nice. If not, that'd be nice too.

Did you not read what I wrote in my editorial that was cut and pasted to the beginning post of this thread?

This has been answered.

VigilAnt

[Wombat]

No, not all of it. You didn't address the shimmering. Then again, Matrox hasn't yet either.

[VigilAnt]

originally posted by ME
It will be roughly the same chip with the same or lower clocks.

Same chip, lower clock. Same issues.

VigilAnt

[Muad'Dib]

Yeah, I read it. And it was not implied. Thanks.

[FormerEx-SalesSoup]

Originally posted by VigilAnt

The 3DLabs, Quadro, and FireGL ALL outperform the Parhelia in the 3D workstation by a good margin in most applications and situations. And your point would be?

VigilAnt

we're not talking benchmarks here...a professional 3D user would have no need to complain about performance if they played around with it. Plus, we're talking about triple-display, a $300 software package in AEC|VIZ and the best end-user support.

[GNEP]

So you're charging directly for Haig now?? (And a bit of MURC thrown in )

[Maggi]

Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup


we're not talking benchmarks here...a professional 3D user would have no need to complain about performance if they played around with it. Plus, we're talking about triple-display, a $300 software package in AEC|VIZ and the best end-user support.

but we're talking about visual quality here and I still see a problem with bandings when using either 3D or video overlay ...

[FormerEx-SalesSoup]

Originally posted by Maggi


but we're talking about visual quality here and I still see a problem with bandings when using either 3D or video overlay ...

this is off the topic, and anyway I have no information on that issue.

[VigilAnt]

Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup


we're not talking benchmarks here...a professional 3D user would have no need to complain about performance if they played around with it. Plus, we're talking about triple-display, a $300 software package in AEC|VIZ and the best end-user support.

When it won't complete some simple operations in very common 3D apps, and/or crawls with others, oh believe me. They do care. This will flop, especially with the banding problems.

VigilAnt

[Maggi]

Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup


this is off the topic, and anyway I have no information on that issue.

information about this issue can be found here

http://forum.matrox.com/mgaforum/Forum6/HTML/001299.html

and here

http://forums.murc.ws/showthread.php?threadid=36666

Regards,
Maggi

[FormerEx-SalesSoup]

Originally posted by Maggi


information about this issue can be found here

http://forum.matrox.com/mgaforum/Forum6/HTML/001299.html

and here

http://forums.murc.ws/showthread.php?threadid=36666

Regards,
Maggi

looks to me like Haig is looking into it for you guys...i wish i could comment on this issue, but i have no information on it (apart from what I see on the Forum and here)