Reasons for Parhelia's poor performance

[Wombat]

Yeah, okay, sure. Have anything to back that up? Didn't think so.

[Novdid]

Originally posted by Drizzt
Just my two cents:
Parhelia is the fastest and smartest card out there.
Programmers are not.

Yeah yeah yeah, BTW I'm superior to all of you but nobody has the brains to see it...

[Drizzt]

You need a nuclear bomb to cut down a tree? No, you need an axe.


Parhelia has everything it needs to be the fastest and powerful card on the market.
And it has a lot of bandwith saving features.


Only, programmers and M$ and Ati and nVidia keep thinking that a nuclear bomb is necessary to cut down a tree, and a bigger bomb for two trees...

[albatorsk]

I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say "fastest", since my meaning of that word is not really appropriate for the Parhelia. Perhaps you could elaborate a bit...

[Wombat]

Originally posted by Drizzt
You need a nuclear bomb to cut down a tree? No, you need an axe.


Parhelia has everything it needs to be the fastest and powerful card on the market.
And it has a lot of bandwith saving features.


Only, programmers and M$ and Ati and nVidia keep thinking that a nuclear bomb is necessary to cut down a tree, and a bigger bomb for two trees...

Except that bandwidth isn't P's problem, so who cares? Matrox may have needed an axe, but they produced a (triple-headed) butterknife. I don't care WHAT you do with the drivers, the card just isn't as fast as the other goods on the market.

[leech]

Originally posted by albatorsk
I've never managed to run GTA3 at a smooth 30 FPS. And the only one who's ever tried to prove me wrong discovered that it didn't run smooth on his system either.

I would really love to see some screengrabs of GTA3 running on a Parhelia at 30+ FPS.

If I ever get time I'll test it out on my system again, it's been awhile since I played that great game (if I recall there was a patch that fixed some of the issues)

Leech

[leech]

Originally posted by Drizzt
Just my two cents:
Parhelia is the fastest and smartest card out there.
Programmers are not.

It IS the fastest card out there (for doing Displacement Mapping )

Leech

[3dfx]

Originally posted by leech
It IS the fastest card out there (for doing Displacement Mapping )

Leech

[VigilAnt]

Re: Reasons for Parhelia's poor performance

Originally posted by joonie
1. Too many pipeline stages. Makes it easy to increase the clock for Matrox, but performance decreases.

2. Very low core clock speed.

3. No efficient memory manager in Parhelia

4. Poor driver. But this shouldn't be the main reason of pathetic performance because no matter how imcomplete the driver is, the graphics card should show even a little bit of potential. But for Parhelia, it's hopeless.

5. Just slow hardwares(eg. memory, chipset etc)

I'm saying all this becuase in my system, I can't even run GTA3 or Battlefield with above 30FPS in res. 1024x768 with least quality (No anti aliasing), which is very unplayalbe. I posted the problem at the Matrox Forum, but I don't think it's going smoothly.
And when I connect the Parhelia to tv and watch the movie, I get a headache from the unsmoothness. It's lilke watching a slow mo with pictures sliding quickly.

Don't take any offence in it dudes

Maybe you could educate yourself with facts? Your assumptions are quite incorrect.

[joonie]

Re: Re: Reasons for Parhelia's poor performance

Originally posted by VigilAnt
Maybe you could educate yourself with facts? Your assumptions are quite incorrect.

If you know so well, then why don't you give us reasons for the under performance of Parhelia?
And those statements are not my idea. It's from a computer magazine that critisized Parhelia. I stated this before in the first page... please READ...

[Wombat]

Re: Re: Re: Reasons for Parhelia's poor performance

Originally posted by joonie
If you know so well, then why don't you give us reasons for the under performance of Parhelia?
And those statements are not my idea. It's from a computer magazine that critisized Parhelia. I stated this before in the first page... please READ...

What computer rag? 99.5% of them are crap. Also, if anyone should be reading, I would think it's you. Hit the MURC archives - we've talked about this subject, and anything related, <B>extensively</B>. It's guaranteed that the knowledge base here is better than any trade rag. We have microprocessor designers, Intel bunnies, programmers of every skillset, and a host of people under Matrox NDAs with information that magazine of yours would have wet dreams about.

You don't have the ideas of your own, and you don't really understand the concepts you're posting about. Your posts about subjects such as pipelining, clock speed, and fab techniques make that obvious. Read up, or go home. We respect new users, we respect authoritative experts, but we'll tear anyone to shreds when they're the former masquerading as the latter.

Have a nice day.

[VigilAnt]

Re: Re: Re: Reasons for Parhelia's poor performance

Originally posted by joonie
If you know so well, then why don't you give us reasons for the under performance of Parhelia?
And those statements are not my idea. It's from a computer magazine that critisized Parhelia. I stated this before in the first page... please READ...

I DO know so well, and I would venture to say that the Parhelia doesn't really underperform so much as it didn't hit its target performance.

The reasons for it not doing so are NOT what you listed, what you listed was simply ignorant ramblings.

[Fluff]

I thought you had been arrested . VigilAnt. That front page could do with an update. December 22nd...

[Paddy]

BBQ sauce anyone?

[mdhome]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Reasons for Parhelia's poor performance

Originally posted by VigilAnt
I DO know so well, and I would venture to say that the Parhelia doesn't really underperform so much as it didn't hit its target performance.

The reasons for it not doing so are NOT what you listed, what you listed was simply ignorant ramblings.

VA, Just curious. Why do you still carry the censored avatar?