My collection:G250

[George YS]

Wow, that's impressive.
Isn't there any new feature added to the shrinked core? I can't imagine Matrox made a simple die shrink and introduced a new model.

[Wombat]

the die of G250 and G200 OEM for IBM is the same.

No, it isn't. The packaging is the same on the outside. You can't see the die. It makes sense that the packaging would be the same, since they didn't want to have to redesign the rest of the board to go with it.

[WyWyWyWy]

chhfchhf you need to spend the money to buy both p650 and p750 to complete your collection now

[chhfchhf]

Originally posted by WyWyWyWy
chhfchhf you need to spend the money to buy both p650 and p750 to complete your collection now

hehe !i have no MMS Series now!

[chhfchhf]

Originally posted by Wombat
No, it isn't. The packaging is the same on the outside. You can't see the die. It makes sense that the packaging would be the same, since they didn't want to have to redesign the rest of the board to go with it.

i take the pic of G250(Left) and G200 OEM for IBM (Right,take off the heat sink).
the die is the same one,aren't you?

[Wombat]

Originally posted by chhfchhf
the die is the same one,aren't you?

<B>NO</B>. You can not see the die. My avatar is a die photograph. You are showing me the packaging. Very different die have had identical packaging.

[chhfchhf]

Originally posted by Wombat
<B>NO</B>. You can not see the die. My avatar is a die photograph. You are showing me the packaging. Very different die have had identical packaging.

oh!yes, i make a mistake
but the code in the BGA is the same one

[Wombat]

Fine, run PowerStrip or the MGA tools on it. Let's see what they think. I'm curious now.

[Chrono_Wanderer]

LOL Calm down guys... relax

What Wombat means is the actually silicon piece inside the BGA packaging. lol. You cannot see it, its in a "vaccum" area inside the packaging where no air and dust reaches. If you attampt to open the packaging and take a look at the actually piece of silicon, you will destroy it, since the chip was fabbed in VLSI and each traisistor on it is so small that even some fine dust will destroy like few thousand transistors (0.35 / 0.25 micro meter square for G200/G250).

Wombat's avatar is actually the "die/VSLI circuit" we are talking about. The photo is done under a microscope, and blown up to the size of an avatar (BTW that die is an Itanium, huge die baby!)

Hope that will clear things up a bit...

[Wombat]

Itanium 2, technically, and yes, damn large. 220-something million transistors, all of them nasty.

Bigger pic: http://cpus.hp.com/

[Chrono_Wanderer]

oh yea. one more thing. my G200 AGP is the "original powered by Matrox" retail card. Full ATX, no cutting edge. Right now my friend is borrowing it for some special purposes, I will take a photo when i grab it back.

[Chrono_Wanderer]

damn &*#%0 huge lol

[chhfchhf]

Chrono_Wanderer£º
i lived in Beijing,where been infested by the SARS
aren't you?

[Chrono_Wanderer]

Sort-of. Actually the condition in Toronto is not as bad as it seems, comparing to Baijing. IMO other countries are a bit aggrassive over Toronto. Just saw news today and heard some Japanese boarding students will not come to Toronto because of SARS. IMO that's a bit too aggressive (can't blame them though. They don't know what the condition is here, and if it were me, I may be freaking out too!). Apparently, everytime we discover a SARS case, that person is completely isolated, and I think the problem is under control so far. If I walk around my community, virtually nobody wears masks at all... so from that you can sort of see the condition in Toronto right now (I live in outer bound of Toronto, called Thornhill, where the ATI's first and biggest headquarter is)

Actually. AFAIK Beijing is not in really good shape right now. Initially they reported ~30 people. Under global pressure, the Beijing mayor and the health minister were fired right? and after that, 300 people were reported right away. So the 30 people thing, I assume its a lie. One thing though. I am really happy to see that China is realizing that hiding facts is not going to work when China is turing itself into a huge international economic country. This is a good sign... Mao Zedong screwed China up with these ideas of hiding facts, and killed a whole lot of scholars. The government has to drop these ideas... to improve itself. Speaking of Baijing, my parent's friend's son is in Baijing right now, working as a Canadian ambassador. From him I heard the disease is speading quite quickly, and mask is in shortage...

The real challenge comes... when SARS spread to the contryside in china... the health equiptments there is not very advance... so that will let SARS spread a lot more quickly... at least that's what I think.

Be careful man! Hope SARS will be gone soon...

BTW this is off topic now Maybe you can chat about this in TL

[chhfchhf]

our health minister is a son of bitch!
the SARSer in Beijing are about 10000!