Why will you purchase a Millennium P-Series board?

[Stringy]

I would like to replace my G400 for a P750 for many reasons..
but Unfortunately it is too high a price for the given performance..

Pro's: Dualhead, they invented it, they still do it best


the Con would be that the competition does have dualhead at a cheaper price and at a higher performance level...



Craig

[mutz]

No, I'm very happy with my P128. I have bought just about every generation of Matrox graphics cards since I can remember and been very happy, with minor exceptions, with all.

I will definitely be on board for the next P type generation that makes a good jump beyond the present one. (I do hope I won't have to mod the cooling though!)

[treilanin]

"No. It's performance is not good enough for my needs."

The reason I voted this was basically like many others, I need a card that isn't too expensive but has decent 3D (Ti4200 level) and really good 2D. The parhelia would have been a perfect card for myself but it way too far out of my price range. The P750 is tempting but it is far too slow to replace my current GF4 Ti4200. I am really hoping for a Price drop or used Parhelia that is closer to my budget range.

[UtwigMU]

No. I'm waiting for something better (from Matrox)

Well I want to work on my machine and play occasional game.

Currently second powerful gaming rig is beyond my budget.

I also want the workstation maxed out. And I want it to be multiheaded monster (current PII@467 is dualheaded, we don't want to take any steps back).

And I want a Matrox card.

Therefore I'd rather get Parhelia retail for my workstation (That's what I intend to do within about a month's timeframe), provided I can test the card for banding before I buy it.

Higher 2D resolution, better 3D and at 380€ in Munich seems feasible.

If I were building Photoshop/DTP or 2D CAD system, I'd go P650 or 750 in an instant. Too bad the bureau I'm working at only runs Ati Rages or Geforce2MX's instead of G400/450/550's.

Also if the rumour mill is silent, I get Parhelia in August and something better comes out this year, I'd be slightly pissed.



BTW, Soupy can you recommend a Matrox dealer in Munich/Germany?

[FormerEx-SalesSoup]

Originally posted by UtwigMU
No. I'm waiting for something better (from Matrox)

Well I want to work on my machine and play occasional game.

Currently second powerful gaming rig is beyond my budget.

I also want the workstation maxed out. And I want it to be multiheaded monster (current PII@467 is dualheaded, we don't want to take any steps back).

And I want a Matrox card.

Therefore I'd rather get Parhelia retail for my workstation (That's what I intend to do within about a month's timeframe), provided I can test the card for banding before I buy it.

Higher 2D resolution, better 3D and at 380€ in Munich seems feasible.

If I were building Photoshop/DTP or 2D CAD system, I'd go P650 or 750 in an instant. Too bad the bureau I'm working at only runs Ati Rages or Geforce2MX's instead of G400/450/550's.

Also if the rumour mill is silent, I get Parhelia in August and something better comes out this year, I'd be slightly pissed.



BTW, Soupy can you recommend a Matrox dealer in Munich/Germany?

unfortunately, I don't have a list of vendors I can access, other than what can be found at http://www.matrox.com/mga/buy_matrox...s/eur_ger.cfm.

good luck!

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[UtwigMU]

Soupy, what if I drop an e-mail to ms Hausman, she sent me the Powered by Matrox case stickers.

[UtwigMU]

Originally posted by ZokesPro
I love the 2D quality of Matrox cards and I don't often play 3D games.

So what's with UT2k3?

[GT98]

Only way I would get Milennium P-series for myself is in my Machine in work, but its not worth it unless I got new PC Since I'm only running a P3-750 with a PCI G450

After what happened with the Parhelia I'm not gonna have "the first kid on the block syndrome" when a new Matrox card comes out with a new card that geared more to gaming, even though I don't game that much with my PC, I do like having one of the fastest cards in my PC when I do

[lAmerZ]

i've already bought parhelia

[albatorsk]

I have a Parhelia in my main "workstation", and since the rest of my machines run Linux a P-series board is out of the question.

[DC]

I just want Dual-Head + TV-Out so so only choice I have is the P750 (below 250EUR).
Does anybody has an idea if I can use a passive-cooler on the P750 like the P650 (maybe a little larger)?

DC

[Lim]

For passive heatsink, you can use Zalman

http://forums.murc.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42346

[alewisa]

I already have a Parhelia. Two in fact. The visual quality is superb, as always.

The gameplay sucks.

let em define that last statement. Its the best card I have; boh replaced G400 MAX, one in a dual PIII-933 the other in an 1gig Athlon. Ok, hardly games machines, and are ok for the odd Mechwarrior, UT, UT2003, and so forth.

My buying strategy is based on continuing increments. The Athlon, for example, is 1g, but for 2 years was running at 800MHz. Upgraded the card. Last year decided it was time to upgrade the gfx cards, so belived the hype and went P.

This year its time to upgrade the game PC. £200 will buy me a new NF mobo and Athon XP2500, which will last a couple of years. But now I will need to upgrade the gfx card too, and this will cost more than the mobo and CPU!

If Matrox want to make any road into the gamers market, it needs to be competitive with the ATI and NVidia cards. It doesn't need to be faster (as that changes almost weekly, let alone monthly). *Everyone*, from users to web reviewers, are finally starting to realise that it doesn't matter whether a given card is 3fps faster than the other, and in fact it doesnt matter in real terms whether a card does 200fps or 300fps on a high end review rig. What counts is "will it run games fast on *my* system"? If you have a card that is within 10-15% of fps, with superb visual quality, and has the extreme value add of dual and triple head, it will suffice for a high end system. Scale down the fps but keep the differentials (quality, dual/triple), and you have the mid-range card.

Hell, have a card that is average or sub-high fps, add excellent dual head, triple head and visual quality, but kills the competition on FSAA and other goodies.

Provided it is competitive, then matrox gamers will buy. Once the web sites start going overboard on it, mass market will come. Ah, 'cpet you need the distibution chain, or 3rd party clones, to really impact the market (e.g. Computer Fairs, All-Formats, PC World, etc). And that aint gonna happen, is it Matrox? take a lesson from ATI...

Just my rambling tuppence, as I cant be bothered to think too clearly today. I know what I mean!

[jgyearwood]

I'm waiting for the P650/P750 reviews to see what an improvement they will be over my G400 Max. I play Civilization III and The Sim. After Veit Nam I don't go in for the FPS type games. I do need dual head for web development etc.