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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kruzin

    you're selling fewer cards than ever, and new customers are at an all-time low...

    not sure about that one, my friend...
    OFFICIAL EX- EMPLOYEE

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    • #17
      Well, if you have about 3% marketshare out of 140M computers shipped yearly that means 4.2M cards sold.

      If majority of those are Parhelias at price premium, things should start to turn better.

      Just don't come with P850 next year without coming out with performance card that will be competitive.

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      • #18
        hmm, I still got that banding issue on my Parhelia....
        Peter Aragon
        Matrox Parhelia 128 Retail, Iiyama VisionMaster Pro 454, Asus P4C800 Deluxe, Pentium IV 2.8 GHz 800 MHz FSB, Maxtor 120GB S-ATA, 512MB Mem, SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro, Gigaworks S750 speakers, AOpen DVD-R, Pioneer 16x DVD-106, 3COM 905C Networkcard.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup
          not sure about that one, my friend...
          Probably true that there are more units sold but, if I understand correctly, they are mostly going to OEM / Business customers, not (generally) the type of person who would come here. The majority of new users are, most likely, employees of a large company with an internal IS department, to fix their problems and are not hardware geeks . So new customer numbers in the general idea, individually purchased like a home user not a corporate user, is most likely at an all time low. Matrox seems to be focusing on specialty markets where there is more money but a smaller demographic (number of customers). Remember customers are not the same as users; IBM is a customer with thousands of users, employees.

          Also seeing that Matrox is no longer bashing about in the gamming market, I would not be surprised if new memberships here does stay low for a while. Well, at least until an ultra cool gamming (G800 ) comes kicking and screaming to the surface.

          Basically, Kruzin is right.

          From a certain point of view.

          Jeff:
          Last edited by Duty; 2 October 2003, 12:39.
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          people just don't know They're dead yet!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Duty
            Probably true that there are more units sold but...
            Basically, Kruzin is right.

            From a certain point of view.

            Jeff:
            Fair enough. However, according to what's happening around here as of late, it looks to me like things are only going to get better (in terms of sales).

            Hint: No longer Marketing Writer....now Marketing Specialist - Corporate & Financial.
            OFFICIAL EX- EMPLOYEE

            <font size="1">"So now I'm dreaming<br>For myself I'm understanding <br>Performing there, one hundred thousand fans would gather one and all <br>And so decided, we could rule it all if we should <br>Dance all away across the greatest city in the nether world..."<p>- Central Park 09/24/03</font>

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            • #21
              So get on the phone to those corporates showing them how much more productive I'd be with more than one screen... please?

              Chuck lots of studies re. multimonitor working (and about how cheap screens are too) at the business sector.

              If dualhead was part of our corporate "standard" infrastructure (rented from compaq for >100,000 desktops & laptops), I'd be very happy, and I;m sure you would be too (if the dualhead was from Matrox). As it is, outside of the corporate treasury where I enjoyed 5-screen working (2 on a G450 in a desktop, and 3 on a Reuters box), no-one uses more than one monitor (and they give us pretty crappy ones at that...)
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              • #22
                Oh: and Soupy - until (unless) Matrox starts making mobile parts, you're gonna lose out on about 70% of the business market. Having thought about it, here (Shell) we have probably 70-80% laptops and only the remainder as desktops. And most of those laptops are connected to a docking station for most of the time, but run locked down win2k, so the ability to use the laptop screen AND the monitor independently at the same time is not there (would be I guess on the ATi Rage chipset under Win9x or WinXP...)
                DM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.net

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GNEP
                  So get on the phone to those corporates showing them how much more productive I'd be with more than one screen... please?

                  Chuck lots of studies re. multimonitor working (and about how cheap screens are too) at the business sector.

                  If dualhead was part of our corporate "standard" infrastructure (rented from compaq for >100,000 desktops & laptops), I'd be very happy, and I;m sure you would be too (if the dualhead was from Matrox). As it is, outside of the corporate treasury where I enjoyed 5-screen working (2 on a G450 in a desktop, and 3 on a Reuters box), no-one uses more than one monitor (and they give us pretty crappy ones at that...)
                  Make them read this: http://www.matrox.com/mga/archive_st...ia_markets.cfm

                  and



                  When I get my teeth into the many tasks and projects I'll be working on, I'll definitely make sure to focus on convincing corporate users that multi-display is essential. It's high up on my to-do list.
                  OFFICIAL EX- EMPLOYEE

                  <font size="1">"So now I'm dreaming<br>For myself I'm understanding <br>Performing there, one hundred thousand fans would gather one and all <br>And so decided, we could rule it all if we should <br>Dance all away across the greatest city in the nether world..."<p>- Central Park 09/24/03</font>

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by GNEP
                    Oh: and Soupy - until (unless) Matrox starts making mobile parts, you're gonna lose out on about 70% of the business market. Having thought about it, here (Shell) we have probably 70-80% laptops and only the remainder as desktops. And most of those laptops are connected to a docking station for most of the time, but run locked down win2k, so the ability to use the laptop screen AND the monitor independently at the same time is not there (would be I guess on the ATi Rage chipset under Win9x or WinXP...)
                    We do have docking station solutions (even MMS boards can fit, to offer quad output), but I don't see us going the mobile route in the near future.
                    OFFICIAL EX- EMPLOYEE

                    <font size="1">"So now I'm dreaming<br>For myself I'm understanding <br>Performing there, one hundred thousand fans would gather one and all <br>And so decided, we could rule it all if we should <br>Dance all away across the greatest city in the nether world..."<p>- Central Park 09/24/03</font>

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                    • #25
                      These are generally just docking stations with drives etc - not the capacity for expansion boards unfortunately. Shame about no laptop parts - this one I'm using now manages to go a bit fuzzy everytime I move the mouse... ( at ATi/Compaq).

                      Glad to hear the convincing of corporate people is high on the to-do list
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                      • #26
                        I have to say that I wouldn't be opposed to owning a Mobelia.

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                        • #27
                          wow... kruzin got really really pessemistic in my abscense...
                          "And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ex-SalesSoup
                            Goes to show you that we've reached a point where the quality of the product no longer exhibits problems that need fixing!

                            Actually, if you look, he's installing a G550 on a K7 system. So, nice old hardware. He got a G550, I told him how to fix it. Had he gotten a Parhelia, I would have told him to return it.
                            Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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