About current situation

[Umfriend]

DVI killed the IQ advantage? Really? I doubt that as long as LCD and plasma continue to suck compared to CRT.

[Whirl-Secret]

Yeah Umfriend is right... people who desperately need IQ (photographers, graphic designers) would go for a CRT. However Matrox does test their patience by denying them great 3D, although to an extent this can be compensated for with a lot of system memory.

I have been on Matrox's side till now... let's see if Doom III and HL2 work at all... if one of them is playable with _some_ eyecandy, I'll still be delighted.

As for 2D, Matrox's advantage is still huge for those who look for it... imagine scanning in a map or poster at high res and getting a 70000 x 70000 image... I really wouldn't want to be in photoshop with that file and an ATI / NVidia card...

Well I don't think I would, anyway.

[SpiralDragon]

well.. we could always buy matrox ad 3dlabs... that should proove to be an intresting option

[DGhost]

hmmm, right.... DVI has killed the image quality thing... with high end plasma and LCD screens far more capable than they were years ago and consumer LCD's on par with consumer CRT's, there is a very small market left for people who need CRT's.

Whirl - only way Doom3 is playble on a P is if you turn off all the eye candy

[Umfriend]

What high-end plasma/lcd screens? At what price-point? Same for consumer. Anyone into a little bit of photoshopping or gaming surely still prefers CRT wrt to IQ?

[Nicram]

Originally posted by SpiralDragon
well.. we could always buy matrox ad 3dlabs... that should proove to be an intresting option

3dlabs is now Cretive division. It may be hard :P

[dZeus]

Originally posted by Umfriend
What high-end plasma/lcd screens? At what price-point? Same for consumer. Anyone into a little bit of photoshopping or gaming surely still prefers CRT wrt to IQ?

LCD/TFT beats CRT silly in regards to sharpness of the image. The average CRT is only really better at displaying colours than most TFTs as well at as scree/pixel refresh speeds (which is less important for photoshopping / DTP).

I don't know if there are TFTs that can display colours as well as high-end CRTs though.

[spadnos]

Originally posted by dZeus
LCD/TFT beats CRT silly in regards to sharpness of the image. The average CRT is only really better at displaying colours than most TFTs as well at as scree/pixel refresh speeds (which is less important for photoshopping / DTP).

I don't know if there are TFTs that can display colours as well as high-end CRTs though.

The color-correct ones from Eizo are excellent. 10-bit calibrated color output, individually adjusted at the factory (and re-adjustable with tools available to end-users).

They cost an arm and several necessary organs, though.

- Steve

[DGhost]

exactly. LCD's that do true 24bit color are also seeping upper end of the consumer market too.

as far as what high end LCD's? look at apples new 30" for an example - it is capable of doing 2560 x 1600 pixels and requires 2x DVI inputs to get it. IBM has had one available for a while and there are others that are coming out. these displays offer better resolution and clarity than even a P can provide at 2048x1536.

[rylan]

Fyi "10bit" LCDs are a misnomer still. THe 10bit only refers to the lookup table used for gamma correction of the rgb values, so that when it is translated back to 8bit per subpixel you don't lose any values. LCD electronics are 3x8bit per pixel for 24bit pixels.
Even the new ones still don't display true '24 bit' pixels, as the spatial noise and artifacts from the lcd crystal transmissivity kill groups of low order values.

[leech]

From just going into the local CompUSA, I can definitely say that I like my CRT a lot better than ANY of the LCD's they have there. All the ones they had on display, while quite nice, and all around pretty cool, the responsiveness of them sucked. Even the ones that the guy had a high response rate. Everytime you would drag a window around, you could see the re-draw. And this WAS on a Parhelia 8x with 256mb of RAM. Though admittedly, the guy said that was connected to low-end LCD's. The ones that were connected to the high-response ones, were nVidia FX5900 or 6800 cards, and I know my 6800 GT doesn't do a redraw on the desktop when moving the windows around.

Leech