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  • #46
    Originally posted by albatorsk
    Used to have a Parhelia. Probably excellent hardware, but I'll never know, since it lacked functioning drivers. After a year of waiing for Matrox to release something working, I gave up and got a Radeon 9600. It's twice as fast and it has excellent driver support. Well, at least compared to the Parhelia
    What's your problem? They are much problems today, started with BF Vietnam, but the drivers of the Parhelia were good when it was a actual card.
    And a 9600 is not alway 'as twice as fast', perhaps in specific (openGL?) games, but in Unreal2 based games for example, the original Parhelia with latest drivers is at the level of a 9500 vanilla.
    P IV 3,06 Ghz, GA-8ihxp i850e, 512 MB PC-1066 RDRam, Parhelia 128 mb 8x, 40 + 60 gb IBM 7200 upm/2048 kb HD, Samtron 96 P 19", black icemat, Razer Boomslang 2100 krz-2 + mousebungee, Videologic sonic fury, Creative Soundworks

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Che Guevara
      What's your problem? They are much problems today, started with BF Vietnam, but the drivers of the Parhelia were good when it was a actual card.
      And a 9600 is not alway 'as twice as fast', perhaps in specific (openGL?) games, but in Unreal2 based games for example, the original Parhelia with latest drivers is at the level of a 9500 vanilla.
      One word: Linux.

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      • #48
        Linux is also what drove me away from the Parhelia.
        Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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        • #49
          Of course, of course, Linux-support, or Dx9...

          but you also talked about performance, and your statement is, for gaming in generally, just not true.
          P IV 3,06 Ghz, GA-8ihxp i850e, 512 MB PC-1066 RDRam, Parhelia 128 mb 8x, 40 + 60 gb IBM 7200 upm/2048 kb HD, Samtron 96 P 19", black icemat, Razer Boomslang 2100 krz-2 + mousebungee, Videologic sonic fury, Creative Soundworks

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          • #50
            Well, if you count OpenGL games, I'd go so far as to say that the 9600 is more than twice as fast.

            EDIT: I had my Parhelia for more than 2 years, and up to date, I can't think of a single game or application where the performance of the Parhelia was even close to my current card.
            Last edited by albatorsk; 24 October 2004, 09:56.

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            • #51
              The P750 is perfect for work. DH DVI or TH HD-15.

              For games I used another PC with a Sapphire Radeon 9800 Ultimate. Excellent IQ too, DX9 support, utils for tweaks, etc. No TH though and I can't connect two DVI screens.

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              • #52
                I could make GL Quake run 3-4x faster on an ATI or NVidia card than on the Parhelia. at 320x240. which is a resolution where it *should* be CPU bound, not fill rate.

                so... yeah... the P is slow... there are a lot of driver/hardware bugs that involve incredably painfully slow workarounds, even in DirectX...
                "And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz

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                • #53
                  I have been ATI since the release of the 9700 series. Although I did have a Parhelia 4x for a short while but the banding was too much for me. I'd agree with albatorsk .. the parhelia was generally a poor gaming card in terms of performance. Its only redeeming feature for me was 16x AA ... which was riddled with banding issues.
                  Last edited by 3dfx; 26 October 2004, 08:50.

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                  • #54
                    My last Matrox card was the G550. Its good for work.

                    But I have switched to a Radeon 8500 128MB on that machine (Athlon). After that, got a new P4 with a GeForce FX 5200 (128bit memory, dual dvi + vivo)... great card for its purpose and price for its time, 2D is good on my LCD.

                    Going to get a NF4 (non-SLI) + AMD64 + GF6700 this winter.

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                    • #55
                      P650 and quite satisfied. 2D is marvolous. Would be happier if Morrowind could run a bit faster [roughtly about 35 fps ]

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                      • #56
                        I have a g450 in my workstation which I use for everything non-game related. I have a Ti4400 in my games machine but I dont use that machine as much as the workstation.

                        So... Yes.

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                        • #57
                          G400 SH 16MB still here...

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                          • #58
                            At work G450 dual monitor 32 MB
                            Home G550 dual monitor 32 MB
                            Wife G550 single monitor 32 mb
                            Daughter G200 PCI
                            Server G400 MAX single monitor

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                            • #59
                              Had to change my Parhelia with R9600 in my main computer, since win9x drivers still don't exist (need to have dual-boot WinME/WinXP at the moment). When my need for Win9x platform expires, Parhelia will be back in.
                              In my other two active computers at home are Matrox G200 and G450 in full use for years now.
                              Even at work I use Matrox G450 in my computer.
                              Matrox G400 is in my girlfriend's computer, and G550 is (at the moment) my prime service card.
                              <font size="1" color="green">Holly: "Appreciate what vou've got, because basically, I'm fantastic!"</font>

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                              • #60
                                P650 in the main PC, plus a collection of G400's, including one Max, a couple of G200's and a G100 in others. The only non Matrox cards in use are a Hercules Prophet 4500 and an ATI Radeon 7000 in my HTPC .

                                If ATI had produced a card with dual DVI outputs when I got the P650 I'd probably have bought that instead.
                                When you own your own business you only have to work half a day. You can do anything you want with the other twelve hours.

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