OK! PCI Express is announced

[Belwarrior]

Originally posted by Kruzin
it's crippled to software emulation for many of it's advanced hardware functions, because M doesn't have the staff or resources to write a proper set of drivers for the card.

has that many people left Matrox for ati and nvidia

[mmp121]

Originally posted by Kruzin
This is the card I warned you about a while back.
It's built on the regular Parhelia chip, but it's crippled to software emulation for many of it's advanced hardware functions, because M doesn't have the staff or resources to write a proper set of drivers for the card.
This PCIe card WILL be slower than the AGP version...

Are you saying that if one were to play say UT2004 with the PCIe version of the P it would do stuff that normally would be done in hardware (on the AGP P) through software?

[Marshmallowman]

The card they announced is PCIe 16x though. Were you thinking of a 6800 in a SLI slot with the Matrox board? I think the Matrox board has to be able to negotiate down to 8 lanes for that to work.

There are a few boards with 2 16x slots on the way, and I would also hope the matrox allows it to work in a variety of PCI-E slots anyway as they are *Supposed to be the multimonitor experts...

Anyways , its off the mark for me. Expensive and lacking adequate 3d, either of those issues I could live with but not both

[Amiga Blitter]

This is my first post that sit in the Murc main page!!!

[Maggi]

Originally posted by Amiga Blitter
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"The Parhelia APVe is OpenGL® and Microsoft® DirectX® compliant"

version???

The G400 is OpenGL® and Microsoft® DirectX® compliant ...

[Che Guevara]

Originally posted by Kruzin
This is the card I warned you about a while back.
It's built on the regular Parhelia chip, but it's crippled to software emulation for many of it's advanced hardware functions, because M doesn't have the staff or resources to write a proper set of drivers for the card.
This PCIe card WILL be slower than the AGP version...

I remember that you've said that...
please tell me where do you get your infos from?
Sorry, but I can not believe this, they have working (except some games) drivers for different AGP Parhelias, so why should they have problems to write them for a P with PCI-Express interface and HDTV-support?

[Kruzin]

Believe me, or don't. Those who've been around long enough know that my speculations generally come true...

[PAugustin]

Just because they have drivers for AGP cards. And they probably need to re-write them for PCI-express and they don't have the human ressources to do that...

[Wombat]

Originally posted by Belwarrior
has that many people left Matrox for ati and nvidia

Some people left Matrox, but MANY were laid off.

[[GDI]Raptor]

Can someone give us some examples of what's beeing done in hardware on the AGP card, aand in software on the PCI-Express cards?

[Che Guevara]

Originally posted by Kruzin
Believe me, or don't. Those who've been around long enough know that my speculations generally come true...

Even for wildest speculations, you should have any reason to think so. But it seems you don't have any idea and you're just guessing...

Originally posted by
PAugustin Just because they have drivers for AGP cards. And they probably need to re-write them for PCI-express and they don't have the human ressources to do that...

Perhaps, but it doesn't sounds right that they can write drivers for all the Parhelia HR256, Parhelia QID and Parhelia Precision SGT cards and so on but not for the PCI-E Parhelia.

If they really have to completely rewrite the drivers (I think other PCI-E cards work with Catalyst/Forceware-drivers which are a bit older than the card itself...), I don't think the implementation of T&L or shaders would make this more difficult, they are still the same, it's just a new interface.

Originally posted by [GDI]Raptor Can someone give us some examples of what's beeing done in hardware on the AGP card, aand in software on the PCI-Express cards?

Nobody can do this now, but of course we could guess again...

[CaineTanathos]

I wonder how the TV-ouput is gonna be on a normal tv and on (my future ) HD tv (or projector)
especially with the included YPbPr analog component cable.

[Fluff]

So finally something to compete with the RGB out of a G400

[Wombat]

Originally posted by Che Guevara
Even for wildest speculations, you should have any reason to think so. But it seems you don't have any idea and you're just guessing...

You know, every time you post, you just become a bigger *****le. Kruzin, Greebe, myself, and others here have some VERY reliable sources. We were right about the 550, about Parhelia, about the Px50s. A long tradition of knowing what we're talking about.

[SaTaN^666]

nice.. wombat. as for the card... again I am kind of dissapointed.... I was expecting them to use pci express to a gamers advantage and actually make a card capable of high fps to at least compete with the latest of nvidia and ati. Ive been going to matrox.com and here almost everyday to see when the new pci express card would come out and its specs.... and this is what I get? a card 2 years old.. with some new eye candy for home media. I think I am going to move to nvidia, sorry to say but this is just depressing.