G400MAX beatan by a TNT2U in Q3??????????

[Fyrespray]

OK Myself and Hex have compared our settings and done some timedemo's in Q3. We set our gfx options up exactly the same 800*600 in q3 32Bit everything, Full Textures, Medium Geometry, Trilinier, Gibs and Marks on Walls Off.

Hex 39.7 FPS
Myself 54.2 FPS

Hex's system :

Athlon 700 (OEM)
128 PC133 Generic SDRam
Asus K7M Motherboard
Matrox G400Max.
Sound Blaster Platinum Live,
Intel 100/10 Ethernet Card.
300 Watt PSU
AGP 2x (checked to see if its on)
Had my Graphics Apendeture size @ 256 and 128, no difference.
My G400Max is sharing an irq with a place holder.
Windows 98 SR2
Latest Powerdesk, Latest TurboGL Drivers.

My system is as below except I have Borrowed a TNT2U off one of my friends, not a great card but faster than my G200

Now I don't know about everyone else but I think there is something seriously wrong here. I'm wh00ping him in the FPS stakes and i have a much slower processor and I have borrowed a card that is know to be below G400Max in both performace and quality. Can anybody shed some light on this ??

We have benchmarked with and without vsync turned off and also tried forcing agp1x and agp2x on his system. he also completely reinstalled windows on his machine and put all the latest drivers for everthing on when he did, including latest 4in1 latest agp drivers and G400 drivers on last.

Help would be greatly appretiated as we are tearing our hair out here all boy does that G400 look pretty

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Celery 366 @ 550,Abit BM6, 128Mb PC100 Ram, G200 8Mb, AWE64 Gold, Win98SE.

[leporis]

i suggest a sblive drivers update and disabeling if not already all caching related to video in the bios.

[leporis]

do both of you win98SE? everyone knows SE is crap, just take a look at the update section for it @ microsoft site.

If only Bill Gates would have been shitting instead of making SE

[Hex]

Im am using the latest SBLive drivers.
Very little speed increase noticed, if any.
Also all bios caching apears to be off anyways, as far as I can tell, but
if anyone knows there way around an AMI bios
well, please let me know any settings I should be using, cause ive been dragged away
from my old award bios that actually made sense
---Hex



[This message has been edited by Hex (edited 09 January 2000).]

[JWilliams]

Yo Fryespray.. Thanks for the help on online gaming in Q3A!!!I knew that there had to be a reason I couldn't jam. As to your Q3A FPS, I wish I could help...My K7 is at 750, but other than that, systems are preety much the same, so I ran
timedemo 1
demo demo001.dm3
and got 77.6FPS with the same setings as you describe in your post, as far as I can tell, sky off, trilinear on, 32 on texture and color, medium on the geo slider, but I run marks on wall on, so I can tell where I missed! This is on a 98 SE system, but very bare, nothing but Q3A, Q2, Realplayer, afew tweak utils, and drivers..Email me the exact config you got, and I will test with that, but I don't think a tnt2 will do it. BTW, I can run the same settings at 1024 X 768 and get 48.8 FPS, so sumptin's up.

[specialk]

I set the same settings you described above except I used cg_drawgun 0. FPS=80.4 in demo001. I am using the TurboGL that comes with the 5.41 drivers (not the latest TurboGL- for some reason my setup didn't like the new ones.)

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[specialk]

Oops- system specs:

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Matrox G400MAX
PIII600
Abit BX6-2
224mb Samsung GH
SB Live
Netgear NIC
Tekram SCSI
Maxtor 20gig ATA-66 7200
IBM 14.4gig ATA-33 7200
Creative 5xDVD- no card
Plextor 8/2/20 CDR
Kenwood 52x CDROM

[Fyrespray]

Ok to ensure that myself and Hex had everything setup exactly the same in Q3 we used the same cfg file which is available <a href=http://www.fyre.nildram.co.uk/q3config.cfg>here</a> If anyone with an athlon same spec as Hex's or close to it could try benchmarking with this cfg file it would be very helpful. If you do benchmark with it don't forget to backup your old q3config.cfg first or you will lose your single player progress and various other things that you have done in the game. Oh and also the CD-Key has been removed from this cfg file before anyone tells me i'm dumb or goes looking for one, my brain isn't completely fried yet

Results with this cfg

My Machine : 54.5 FPS
Hex Machine: 40.0 FPS

The systems are as shown in the first post, thanks in advance for any help Me and Hex are gonna sort this out if it kills us, we are both positive that something isn't set up right on his machine

Also Hex completely reinstalled Win98SE last night and we are still getting the same results, are there any Athlon owners out there that can think of anything we might have missed when he reinstalled that could account for this lack in performance ???

Fyrespray

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Celery 366 @ 550,Abit BM6, 128Mb PC100 Ram, G200 8Mb, AWE64 Gold, Win98SE.

[Rags]

Does he have the TurboGL installed?

Does he, by chance, have a NIC installed too?

Rags

[Hex]

Yeah im using the TurboGL... Quake 3 reports im using it too in the driver info section, Also im using the latest amd agp and bus master drivers.

Um Whats a NIC????


----Hex

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"There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people"


[This message has been edited by Hex (edited 09 January 2000).]

[Rags]

Network Interface Card.....it's a network card.

Rags

[Hex]

Yeah i do have one as it happens.

----Hex

[Salmonius]

Do you have the latest AGP drivers for the Athlon board? If I remember well, there is an (big) issue without one of the latest revisions of the driver.

Nick

[Salmonius]

Oops, I just saw your latest post. It just seems impossible that the Athlon would get such a low score... I would think that an Athlon with a g200 would get around 40fps.

Nick

[Rags]

Okay Hex,
Try going into device manager and disable your NIC, reboot then re-run the test.

Rags