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  • #31
    I got a mail on this quite recently, asking UK buyers to boycott petrol stations on the 1st of every month starting August. It mentions the original topic (there you go LAMFDTK!) but I've produced it in full because of the way the thread's went!

    Fact 1:
    When the petrol price was hiked in America last year, that's precisely what the people did. Nobody bought petrol for a day. The loss of revenue was crippling for some of the big players. They rallied round and forced the prices down again.

    Fact 2
    If you live in the UK, you are taxed at 333% on your petrol. Petrol is now fast approaching £0.90 per litre. That's £4.10 a gallon. For every £50 fill-up, you are giving the government £43 out of your own pocket.

    Fact 3
    Britain has been hit worse than all other countries in Oil Company price hikes, due to the rising price of crude. Before the 1999 Budget, a litre of unleaded petrol was 59.9p. The 4p a litre tax hike in 1999 followed by the 2p a litre hike in 2000 would have meant a price today of 65.9p a litre. Oil companies have added on another huge chunk which with UK taxes amounts to today's price of 85.9p a litre (as at 19th June 2000). No other country has experienced this increase on the same rapid and ongoing scale.

    Fact 4
    For the average family, a 1p increase per litre in the cost of fuel means an extra £100 a year out of their pocket. Work it out for yourself. In the weeks leading up to mid June, you all took a salary cut of around £700 a year.

    Fact 5
    An average car with a 60 litre tank capacity now pays £15 more to fill his car now than he/she did only 15 months ago. That increase is more than 30% over 15 months. Britain's increase alone is more than the Americans pay for their fuel.

    Fact 6
    Fuel duty has little to do with the environment. Leaded petrol was supposedly taxed highly for environmental reasons. Why then, when it was replaced with LRP did the price not come down? Diesel fuel is cheaper, yet pollutes more by producing carcinogens and particulates. LPG is the cleanest fuel there is but you don't see the government promoting that do you?

    Fact 7
    £38billion is sucked out of motorist's pockets each year in tax. You buy the planet's most expensive petrol, but do you see that money going back into the roads? No you do not. A recent study pointed out that most of Britain's roads are up to 15 years beyond their structural refurbishment date.

    Fact 8
    Freight companies are suffering - so is our trade with the EU. When a haulage company has to fill it's tanks with diesel taxed at such a ridiculous rate, it's running costs become so expensive that companies take their business to haulage firms based on the continent. That in turn means a loss of income for our country.

    Fact 9
    Public transport is not an option. Buses and coaches become more expensive again because of the underlying cost of running them. The privatised rail and bus companies continue to slash services and close branch routes because running them is not "cost effective." i.e. the shareholders aren't getting their dividends. And the government are doing nothing about it. Rail companies have been under performing and missing targets as stipulated by their contracts ever since privatisation. Yet they're all still in business. In many areas like most of Scotland, even in cities like Aberdeen, there is virtually no rail network and a very poor and very expensive bus network which is monopolised by 2 big operators, unlike London where virtually every mode of transport known to man is readily, and comparatively cheaply available. The government think that public transport is an excellent "alternative" to the car. So much so, they never use it themselves and operate on a do as I say, not as I do basis. John "two-jags" Prescott only ever uses public transport for PR, and each time he does, his chauffer driven Jaguar (which averages 15mpg and is financed by the tax-payer) is waiting for him when he gets off. His fellow government ministers have become very arrogant, autocratic, self important and distant from ordinary everyday life as well - so much so that even the Chancellor admitted that he did not know the price of fuel when questioned recently.

    Fact 10
    The government have given local councils the ability to charge motorists for using roads (tolls) and the power to tax workers for parking their car at their workplace (even in a private car park). This will prove disastrous for the UK, and will damage the country in many ways. One example of this is the tourist industry who are likely to see an even bigger fall in the number of motoring tourists due to the UK's highway robbery.
    I'm not saying I agree with it all - some facts are hyped, personal opinion and some white lies too (eg buses were cheaper than cars so if both go up by 30%...) but there you go. btw, if you want help understanding any of it (been a while since I actually read it all myself) then let me know - or ask a fellow Brit!

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    • #32
      Petrol prices here have raised about 25 to 30 % over the last 3 months. Diesel prices have risen buy 55 to 65% over the same time.

      I have 3 cars, My normal every day car is a Fiat 1.9L Turbo diesel, which use to cost $15 a month in fuel, and now costs about $27.

      I have a Mk 1 Mini Cooper S that runs on av-gas, and that costs about $30 every time I take it out (club races, British day ralleys etc).

      I also have a Range Rover 3.5L V8 that is getting a healthy 17Mpg at the moment. This is only ever used for playing in the mud, or pulling the caravan or boat.

      My fuel costs have risen from about $50 a month to about $120.

      Oh, Im in New Zealand.

      Ali

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      • #33
        before the 'dump the pump' day here in the uk at the first of august, petrol prices were over £1 a litre in some parts of the UK!! that's just ludicrous! It's now down to 80p/litre but has already started creeping up again...

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        • #34
          We should make that a World Wide boycot the first of every month

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          • #35
            Unfortunatley you still got to fill up sometime. Now if you boycotted the pumps for a month and walked or rode to work that may have a effect.
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            • #36
              Actually agallag, the gas in Canada is roughly 79.9 a litre. If you multiply 79.9 times 3.8 it gives you our equivalent to the US Gallon. That comes to $3.04 canadian. If you convert that to US funds at 50% exchange that gives you $4.55US per galon. 4 times what the americans pay.
              Is my math right?

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              • #37
                I paid $2.14 USD per gallon the other day. Luckily, I hardly drive the car these days (but I drive it hard when I do ).
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by xortam:
                  I paid $2.14 USD per gallon the other day. Luckily, I hardly drive the car these days (but I drive it hard when I do ).
                  What kind of car.



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                  • #39
                    <shudder> petrol prices.

                    About £0.73/litre for Unleaded last time I looked.
                    Most of that's F***ing tax.
                    Its allways funny, until someone looses an eye.

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                    • #40
                      ranging between AU85.9cents/litre to AU95.9cents/litre for unleaded (90 RON) +6 cents for 98 RON, not out of the ordinary
                      Look, I know you think the world of me, that's understandable, you're only human, but it's not nice to call somebody "Vain"!

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                      • #41
                        Damn they gone up that much in Oz since I was there last - heading back in 2 weeks for a holiday.

                        To answer the question they have dropped a little here down to about 95 yen/l for unleaded
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Pace
                          Fact 6
                          Fuel duty has little to do with the environment. Leaded petrol was supposedly taxed highly for environmental reasons. Why then, when it was replaced with LRP did the price not come down? Diesel fuel is cheaper, yet pollutes more by producing carcinogens and particulates. LPG is the cleanest fuel there is but you don't see the government promoting that do you?
                          On a related note, there's a BP 'Green' petrol station just up the road from my works. Its got the solar panel roof and a brace of wind turbines.
                          When I dropped by there in the Green Hornet (25mpg, no catalytic converter) for a tank of LRP I couldnt find any pumps that sold it, so I had to make do with Unleaded. "Wheres the LRP?" asked I as I went in to pay. "We dont have it, its not green." "But they took all the lead out." I riposted. "Duuuh...." replied the attendant.
                          I let him off at that point.

                          PS - The bit about diesel producing more carcinogens and pollutants is almost complete bunk. Modern diesel has been reformulated with very low levels of sulphur and modern diesel engines are practically smoke free. Its only the old, low tech and poorly maintained truck engines (like for instance, the ones in the buses we're supposed to use instead of our cars) that cause any problems.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sasq
                            Damn they gone up that much in Oz since I was there last - heading back in 2 weeks for a holiday.

                            To answer the question they have dropped a little here down to about 95 yen/l for unleaded
                            Sasq, there was a brief period earlier in the year when they went up to AU$1.05/litre, but it seems to have stabilised recently.

                            when I bought petrol last week, I must have filled the tank with water, my poor Astra is as sluggish as all fuggery, I hate how variable the quality is in Australia!
                            Look, I know you think the world of me, that's understandable, you're only human, but it's not nice to call somebody "Vain"!

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                            • #44
                              I think the bigger issue here is why this thread as old as it is was brought up in the first place.
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                              • #45
                                yeah! I noticed a bunch came back from the dead... were you bored Greebe?
                                Look, I know you think the world of me, that's understandable, you're only human, but it's not nice to call somebody "Vain"!

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