Enterprise

[Fat Tone]

EA - you can solve that by editing the link from 'part 1' to 'part 2'.
Now how do you do the equivalent of 'save target as' when the link needs editing? I'm d/ling part 1 now.

Tony.

Edit: Ok, got it! This might be the duffers way, but I opened FrontPage, typed a word, inserted a hyperlink to the modified URL, clicked on Preview, then rt-clicked and saved it from there! 2nd part is only 42.4MB.

Enjoy!

[Hunsow]

The second part is 74550k, I guess you downloaded it while he was still uploading. You should wait for the link to be active.

[Fat Tone]

Ta for the heads-up. I've been trying to get the 2nd half but I can't get through so far

Edit: Getting it now @ 65k/sec, after just watching a thrilling American F1GP. Hope you guys are starting to appreciate it now.

Tony.

[Kruzin]

Re: Enterprise

Originally posted by GT98
I guess the biggest problem I'm gonna have is that I'm gonna be waiting for Dean Stockwell to pop in and tell Sam Becket err...Captan Jonthan Archer what to do next .

Scott

Well I watched Enterprise tonight. It was a re-run.
But I saw the trailer for next week's show, and it reminded me of this old thread.

Your wait is over - Dean Stockwell is gonna be on next week

[Gurm]

I think the biggest problem I have with this Star Trek is that it sort of ... alienates the first series. I mean, I understand that we can't have Star Trek without inconsistencies, but c'mon.

I've seen stuff in this series that is just silly. In one of the very first episodes, they beam Archer out of a shielded room, in the middle of a heavily electromagnetically reactive building (that's basically held together with giant magnets) while the ship is moving at full impulse, and he's moving.

This is something that Geordi or O'Brien would NEVER have been able to pull off - and these "brand new" teleporters have only just been "rated to carry living beings".

Add to that the fact that they have already met Klingons several times, yet Kirk and Spock were the ones to make "initial contact" with the Klingon empire (and some silly-looking orange Klingons with mongolian moustaches).

They just made contact with the Ferengi, for God's sake. Something that PICARD supposedly does for the first time in an early ST:TNG episode.

I'm enjoying the series very much (who wouldn't, after the festering shitpile that was Voyager), but it's stuff like this that bothers me. It's as if the writers have given up, and said "well, there's no way we can come up with enough original plots unless we throw in Klingons and Ferengi and advanced teleporters and phasers that can rip small planets in half and..."

- Gurm

[cjolley]

Come on Gurm, inconsistency is one of the hallmarks ot Trek.

The biggest problem that I see is that they need to rotate writers like the did on TOS.

And..... WTF with all the RERUNS?
Every time I tune in it's a show I've already seen.

chuck

[KRSESQ]

, yet Kirk and Spock were the ones to make "initial contact" with the Klingon empire

Huh?

The Klingons made their first appearance in "Errand Of Mercy" but no one said it was "first contact."

They never mentioned first contact with the Klingons at all in TOS.

Kevin

[Dr Mordrid]

Get your facts straight....

The traditional enemy that the old-Trek characters made first VISUAL contact with were the Romulans in "Balance of Terror".

The story went that Starfleet had fought a war against the Romulans 100 years before but never come into visual contact with them, even during treaty negotions. They negotiated a cease-fire by sub-space audio only.

After several Starfleet outpusts were destroyed they gave chase and came upon an energy surge, indicating a cloaked ship. After a while they were shocked, on hacking into the Romulan ships video systems, to see that they were likely offshoots of the Vulcan race. This gave rise to a raceism sub-plot involving a helmsman who had relatives killed in the previous war and Spock.

"Balance of Terror" is a very good Trek episode and one of my personal favorites even if it was rather derivative of "The Enemy Below", an excellent WW-II flick that won the special F/X Oscar in '57.

Also, Picards encounter with the Ferengi in "The Last Outpost" was NOT presented as Starfleets "first contact" with them either.

Picard was noted for "The Picard Maneuver", which he first performed in combat against the Ferengi duing the battle of Maxia in 2355. This was while he was captain of the Stargazer, some 8 years before TNG started in 2363.

The date of Ferengi "first contact" was never defined before the Enterprise episode.

Dr. Mordrid

[cjolley]

You can't beat for irony the fact that the Romulan captain in "Balance of Terror" showed up again as Spocks father in the episode "Journey to Babel"
chuck

[bsdgeek]

Also, Picards encounter with the Ferengi in "The Last Outpost" was NOT presented as Starfleets "first contact" with them either.

Picard was noted for "The Picard Maneuver", which he first performed in combat against the Ferengi duing the battle of Maxia in 2355. This was while he was captain of the Stargazer, some 8 years before TNG started in 2363.

The episode in which Captain Picard was reunited with the Stargazer was "The Battle". I am not sure if you meant that "The Last Outpost" was the episode or just one with the Ferengi in it.

[Dr Mordrid]

"The Outpost" was the first episode with the Ferengi in it, which is why I noted it in relation to Gurm's "first contact" statement. "The Outpost" aired almost exactly one month before "The Battle" and was the 5th episode of TNG.

The Battle" is where the battle of Maxia and the Picard Maneuver were first mentioned and was the 9th episode.

Dr. Mordrid

[bsdgeek]

Understood.

[Technoid]

Originally posted by Gurm
I think the biggest problem I have with this Star Trek is that it sort of ... alienates the first series. I mean, I understand that we can't have Star Trek without inconsistencies, but c'mon.

I've seen stuff in this series that is just silly. In one of the very first episodes, they beam Archer out of a shielded room, in the middle of a heavily electromagnetically reactive building (that's basically held together with giant magnets) while the ship is moving at full impulse, and he's moving.

This is something that Geordi or O'Brien would NEVER have been able to pull off - and these "brand new" teleporters have only just been "rated to carry living beings".

Add to that the fact that they have already met Klingons several times, yet Kirk and Spock were the ones to make "initial contact" with the Klingon empire (and some silly-looking orange Klingons with mongolian moustaches).

They just made contact with the Ferengi, for God's sake. Something that PICARD supposedly does for the first time in an early ST:TNG episode.

I'm enjoying the series very much (who wouldn't, after the festering shitpile that was Voyager), but it's stuff like this that bothers me. It's as if the writers have given up, and said "well, there's no way we can come up with enough original plots unless we throw in Klingons and Ferengi and advanced teleporters and phasers that can rip small planets in half and..."

- Gurm

And after all the talk about the technology going to be represented as much less advansed than in TOS!!

ofcoarse I know that it would happen!

And I have managed to see the a couple og glimps of it and I will see it as an "slightly different alternative dimension" TM!

And by the way:
Whats wrong with Voyager??

[Dr Mordrid]

What, other than new production is over and it's in reruns?

Dr. Mordrid

[DentyCracker]

I loved the original series, though it seems a little passe watching it now. I agree with Gurm. TNG was the Star Trek. DS9 and Voyager sucked don kiddik (hehe couldn't resist). I am dling the Enterprise stuff now so I have no comment on that yet.